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Hi, everyone, welcome back. I'm Joyce Petrowski, founder and board
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that is it just reinforces your scam prevention habits and
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healthy skepticism. So today, or first before I say today,
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I hope everyone had a fantastic easter over the weekend.
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Hard to believe it's April already, but it's April already.
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But today we have David Hawkins back. And one of
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the things that we talk about in our presentations because
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we always get asked, you know, when we talk about
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let's say antivirus software, well, what's the best one that
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we should use? And everyone's situation is different, and so
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we're going to talk about how to do and show
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you how to do some research using artificial intelligence to
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do some research to determine which antivirus software would be
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good to use. So let's welcome David.
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Good morning, good to see her again and happy. I
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hope you had a happy Easter.
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Yes I did. How about you?
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It was excellent? Yeah, family and friends?
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Nice? Nice, all right, So we are going to get
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right into using an artificial intelligence software using it for good.
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We're going to use it for research to determine and
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I just threw out the you know, which antivirus software
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would be good for me to use? Right and our audience,
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and so I'm going to let you go ahead and
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start with the demonstration.
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Sure, sure, and I'll go ahead and share my screen,
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but I'll also give you a little bit of a
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backgrounder on the AIS in general, just just at a
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high level. So it helps to make sure people a
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lot of times when you don't know which one to use,
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it becomes like I'm afraid to even use one.
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Of them, right, oh, right, right, So.
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So basically think about it this way. You know, the
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the Internet is a great big library for us, right,
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we can go out there in search and find anything
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we need. So in a way, your AI is your librarian, right.
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It's the Dewey decimal system of the Internet for us.
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Nowadays, that's good way to look at them.
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I know some of you know what that is, so
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I do. So think of it as a librarian for you.
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And the difference between a librarian and uh, you know,
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just walking in and saying, okay, where do I find
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the books on psychology? It's a big difference, right. You know,
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the librarian actually talks to you and helps you find
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what you're looking for. But it's the one thing about
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this librarian is, unlike the librarians we probably grew up
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with who actually knew to ask you all the right questions,
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you kind of have to prompt them so that they
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know what to look for for you.
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So the idea here though, is it's predicting answers, right,
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It's just a pattern prediction engine. They're creative and fast,
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so sometimes they'll come up with really good, interesting caveats
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around a topic. And you know, one of the things
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that they have is that there's no follow up. So
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you know, if you if you ask a real librarian
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where do I find books on psychology? They'll point you
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in the right direction. And then when you get there,
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they might even show up in the in the aisle
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and say, is this what you were looking for? The
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AI is not going to do that, And at a
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quick high level, there's a couple of big ones out
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there to know chat GPT is probably one of the
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most common. People know it by name. It's heavily marketed,
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so as a result, everybody gets a cop you know,
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everybody gets emails and whatnot about it. Claude is a
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lot less well known. It's really like the programmer's paradise
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type of AI, so maybe a little overkill for most people.
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Gemini is like a perfect sweet spot my opinion. The
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tool that I'm actually showing you this in is a
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Gemini product called Notebook LM and it's free, by the way.
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And then of course there's GROCK and if you have
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if you do anything on X or Twitter. This is
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the default built in AI, and it's the one I
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use the most because it tends to have both the
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Internet stuff but also proponents. So you know, in a
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cybersecurity realm, there's a lot of people in cybersecurity that
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I know and that I work with, and so when
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I go look something up in Grock. It goes out
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to the internet, gets me results, but it tells me
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what the experts over on x or Twitter actually say
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about it. Oh okay, so that's one of the reasons
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why I've always kind of gone in that direction. Okay,
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now I'm going to talk a little bit in a
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minute about how to create a good prompt. I'm going
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to give you one quick tip. Ask the ask the
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AI to help you make the prompt. Don't just do
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it yourself. It's easy. It's easy to ask, but it's
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called reverse prompting. Okay, you're going to say to the AI,
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I don't know what to do. Help me to figure
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out what to do before you even ask about the
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first topic. And then you know, there's some of this
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other stuff here is interesting, you know, in terms of
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the use cases. But let's just talk about this for
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one second. Because a lot of people, you know, AI
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is generally free and for the average casual, average user,
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you're going to go to any of these and you're
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going to say, you know, search and it's going to
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give you an answer. You don't have to subscribe. But
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if you're like me, I'm heavy into research. I dig
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into things really deep. So I pay for a couple
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of these. I actually have more than one of these
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that I pay for per year, and I would have
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to say, if you're going to look at the one
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that has the biggest bang for the bucket has to
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be Google, because if you get if you decide to
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subscribe to Google, what you get is something that has
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twenty tools, and it's going to be very familiar. All
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of those tools work in documents and spreadsheets, and there's
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just so much that they offer as fringe products, even
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even like going through your email and helping you find
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things and eliminating spam and things like that. So probably
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the best overall bundle is.
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The gems in ninety nine a year.
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Nineteen ninety nine per month, and they have an annual
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if you choose to that actually has reduced cost on
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all of that. All of these. Anytime you buy into
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one of these, this is a monthly fee. It's not
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for everybody, and you don't need to use the paid version,
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but I find that it's very useful to actually be
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aware of the paid version, because you know it is
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for some people, it's going to be a little bit
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more useful to have that paid version. Okay, so the
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big things that I wanted to mention here before is
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how do you ask AI anything right? How do you
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figure out what AI is going to How do you
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get the best results? Okay, it's not just search. If
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you just search, you can find a bunch of things.
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And you know what is the first rule of search?
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But the ads at the top, so you're always going
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to see a million ads when you just say show
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me the best fist.
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And that right, it'll say ads or sponsored ads?
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Yeah, exactly. And if you you know our premise question
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which we'll get back to in a second, of what
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is the best anti virus? That whole discussion comes with
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it's fraught with a few perils. One of the perils
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is who paid for the most exposure in the search engine.
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That's the one that's going to go to the top.
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That's why chat GPT goes to the top. They pay
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for advertising. So when it comes to which is the
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best chat or AI to use, the one who pays
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the most advertising is the one that shows up on top.
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So that's how you the first rule of thumb when
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it comes to search, always have a really clear idea
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of what you're trying to do. Try and separate things
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because a lot of times people will say, tell me
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this and that right, So for example, what's the best
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anti virus and VPN? Right, it's mixing product, you know.
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So it's hard not to do that sometimes because a
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lot of questions that I ask my AI from a
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personal perspective, are I just copied and pasted all of
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the pictures of the ingredients for all of my supplements
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that I take. I copied and pasted them into a
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word document, and I want to know is this overkill
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or just right in terms of taking supplements? So it
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can look at the images and get that information out.
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But then you say, and is it right for my labs? Well,
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then you're getting into a totally different topic and you're
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going to have to post other files to make it work.
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So you can just be very clear and concise to
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get really good results. Okay, but this is the big one,
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is the reverse prompt So before we begin, let's start
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with actually doing some prompts. So my first question you said,
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how do we discover what is the best anti virus?
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So my first question is, and let me go back
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to the document for one quick thing. I want to
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ask the the AI to do something as a person. Okay,
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So I want to tell them I want you to
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act like an expert. That's the very first thing when
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I create. I'm going to say, act like a security
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professional that understands. Endpoint. I'm going to endpoint is like
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our computers, right, endpoint security for consumers, because we don't
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want to be a corporate right.
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We don't want to write because that's different.
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What is the best anti virus?
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And do we need to say like for twenty twenty six?
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So it's only pulling current information?
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Not really, but sometimes it's better to just let the
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AI do this.
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So the first thing I'm doing is I'm kind of
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framing my question and then I'm going to say, give
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me the best prompt. This is the reverse prompt to
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get a side by side comparison of these products.
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Now, should we say for seniors?
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Yes? Would that be okay, senior over fifty five and
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not a tech genius.
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Okay, that's good. So it's automatically going to look at
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ones that are easy to use.
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Right, right, And so that goes back here to this
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And by the way, I'll share this document. We can
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put it up as a leg on the at the
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end of the session. But you know, how do we
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want to see the data right that we're telling it
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right now, give me a side by side comparison. We're
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asking it to give us the best prompt so that
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we get the best results. We're giving a little bit
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of background. That's hey, I'm over fifty five and I'm
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not a tech genius, and we told it to use
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a persona and we try to be very clear and specific.
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So that's really the focus, and that's how we start.
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So if you had a set of bullets like that
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in like in a note that you keep handy, whenever
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you want to make a prompt, you just copy and
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paste those into the prompt and then rewrite it for what.
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You're looking for, right, okay.
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And by the way, just to give you an illustration
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of that, I actually have this thing in Google I
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use keep notes and what I do with my keep