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Season 2

Do AI products have security holes?

David Hawkins is back to discuss a recent announcement and its potential impact on end users.

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What do I need to do?

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So today we've got David Hawkins back to talk more

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artificial intelligence. Well, hello.

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Good to see you again.

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Good to see you too.

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So I did a little bit more digging this time

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and One of the things I wanted to talk about

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today was a little more about how you can use

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AI to protect yourself.

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Oh, okay.

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You know, I think a lot of people are scared

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of AI. I think we talked about that before. And

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I have to admit, I use it a little bit,

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but I think there's a lot of people out there

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that rely on it and they just verbatim copy and

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paste and they can get into it. a lot of

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trouble that way, but I'm excited to hear, you know,

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how we can use it to protect ourselves.

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Yeah. And I think most of it, a lot of

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people have some kind of an AI tool. I mean,

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I'm sure you, what do you use as your own?

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I mean, I usually, if I'm struggling on writing something,

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you know, I'll, I'll just go into chat GPT and,

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and pull it up. But I know other people who,

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I've got some, um, friends that are experts in like

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ones in the co-pilot ones in, um.

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Is it grok or something?

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down with them to, um, get them to show me,

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you know, uh, cause they're.

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All the same. They're all the same and totally different. Uh,

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but they're, I'm going to show you a couple of

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things today that are really fun and we're going to

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cross most of those boundaries. Okay. Um, I don't actually

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use ChatGPT myself. I tried them last year.

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I don't really care one way or the other. I

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up-to-date stuff because of its connection with Twitter X.

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Oh, okay.

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On the other side, I use Gemini a lot, which

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Matter of fact, a lot of what I'm going to

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Yeah, it's interesting. And let me share, this is my

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When you use all of the free versions, you can

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ask like five or 10 questions and then it says, yep,

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you're done. Right.

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like five or 10 questions in a day. Oh, a day.

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search with, you know, instead of searching for things, you

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realize half the time when you go to search, you're

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not really searching for something. You're just trying to get

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an answer for something. True. You know, and that's like,

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you know, I can't tell you how many times it's like,

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how do you fix this thing in windows? So I'd

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go put it in a search and then I'd have

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to find like 20 different forums. And it's like, that's

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not what I wanted. I didn't want to find a

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place to get the answer. I just want the answer.

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And that's what all these GPTs do for us.

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They just give you the answer right now.

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I mean, I'll do that a lot.

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If I'm working with the software, whether it's for the

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bookkeeping or it's for the newsletter, for something, if I

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don't know how to do it, my first thing is

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to go and do a Google search. How do you

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do this in mail or, uh, constant contact, you know,

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or how do you do this in, you know, whatever software.

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And, um, I just upped my volume a little bit.

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Let me know if that gets too much. So, um,

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so the things that we're going to talk about today,

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I got about 10, uh, areas that I did some

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research on where we could probably have a positive impact

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for people.

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And some of these things are behaviors, little things that

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you can do that Once you understand how to do it,

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it's like, yeah, that makes sense. I could do that anytime.

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And then the others are maybe using a tool that

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you've never seen before. Okay. So first one, I'm going

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to use a couple slides that I prepared. So I'll

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share my screen real quick here. And what I'm going

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to do is that specific screen right there. There we go.

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I'm going to be hopping in and out of this

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because I'm going to do a real-time explanation demo along

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with the slide share. So this one here is the

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ones that probably the hardest one to defend against because

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it's an incoming phone call. And it's like, how do

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I help with that? How do I deal with that?

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And how can I get any kind of AI help

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with that? So In that vein, one of the things

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that I've learned is how to use other tools. So

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this is Google Talk. Now, if you've never used it,

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if you go to Google, you can actually port a

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phone number or get a dummy phone number over here

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on Google Voice. And then you end up with this

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phone interface. Now, I'm just going to use this for convenience.

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Years ago, I got this phone number here. when I

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took this phone number and ported it over to my

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carrier and I didn't, this number was so bad. It's

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not bad, but it's not easy to memorize. When I

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saw this, I was like, I'm keeping this one. So

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I kept both, but I took the number that I

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was going to port into my new phone service and said, no,

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stick it over here on Google talk. So I have

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it there. And then I have my cell phone, which

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I'm going to call right now. And I'm going to

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mute this as soon as it comes up because I

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don't want it to. Let's see.

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So your computer is calling your cell phone.

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Yeah. And I just called it, but you notice down here,

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I'm going to, uh, you notice down here in the

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bottom right corner, do you see that little record button?

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Yes.

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Well, that exists here too, on your phone.

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Right.

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So if you are on a call right now and I'm, uh,

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let's see, keep it on here. Um, There's a triple

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dot right next to the red button. When you hit that,

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it pops up a menu, and there's a record button

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right there.

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So you can record the call.

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Most people don't know it's there.

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Okay.

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So this is a big deal because, and I'm going

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to just end this call now. I just wanted to

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be able to bring it up so you could see it.

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and know that it's on your phone. And I think

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it's on Google. This is an iPhone. So you could

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probably do the same thing.

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On an Android, I would imagine.

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On an Android. Just be aware of it, right?

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And like you said, when you first... brought that first.

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Slide up, it talks about the emails and the text messages.

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Yes.

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That you get.

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And you can screenshot those. You can copy and paste those.

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And you can put them in different things, right? To say,

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is this a scam or whatever? But the phone calls...

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So that's a great thing is to be able to

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click on that and record the call.

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That's exactly right. So if I had a text message

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on here that I wanted to analyze because I was

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unsure of it, I would open the text message. So

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I'm looking at the text. I'm not going to open

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anything inside of it. But I get the text message.

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So now I'm going to see the message. And then

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you just put your finger on the message. hold it

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and you'll get a pop-up menu and you can copy it,

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copy it and go over to go over to any

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AI that you have on your phone and say, is

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this likely a scam?

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And paste it into there.

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Yeah. You can, you can do the same thing. If

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you had Google talk, you can do the same thing here. Um,

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so it's useful in that regard. It's very simple to do.

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Let me ask you this with this, this Google.

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And to be honest with you, I've never used any,

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this Google talk or any of the, um, I don't

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know if you'd call them internet phones or VOIP. So

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it's the same voiceover voiceover IP.

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That's all. Okay.

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So I guess I have that on my phone. Cause for,

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for the company line, that's what it is. We don't

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actually have a landline.

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And so, so the VoIP tools make all of this

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so much better, but the problem is most consumers don't have,

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you might, you might have a VoIP for years when

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I was living in California and, I had a garage door, well,

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not a garage door, but a gate opener that was,

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it would call me at my house if somebody came

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to deliver a pizza or something. Right. And I didn't

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have a landline, so I had to get a VoIP line.

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And that's actually kind of how I got into understanding these.

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And I would imagine that scammers use like this Google

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Talk app.

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Yeah, they do. And as a matter of fact, the

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VoIP lines themselves, for the most part, are almost all

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what the scammers use. So if you can see what

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makes them so powerful in attacking you is that a

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VoIP tool can be used by an AI on a

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computer to auto-dial.

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Right.

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The scammer's not sitting there, you know, dialing all of

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these numbers.

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Not at all. As a matter of fact, what they

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mostly do, they actually have real cell phones that And

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they put a little tool on the cell phone like

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a prompt or like a script. And it auto dials

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at random. It goes through a list of whatever. And

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it just auto dials like crazy right from a mobile

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phone in some cases. Or it'll use a VoIP line

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like this and auto dial. And decades ago, when I

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first started in cybersecurity, I was in a sales role.

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And they used to have this box you could buy

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called the demon dialer. And that's exactly what it did.

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You plugged it into a regular POTS telephone line and

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you set it up and the thing would just dial

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and dial and dial until it got somebody to pick

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up and then it would ring right through to your phone. Wow. Yeah,

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it was crazy. But so there's a lot of tools

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for the voice to get at you. And good tools

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for us to defend ourselves with. I will say I

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don't want to be an advertisement for Google Voice, but

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I want to point something out about Google Voice. you

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can tie your normal cell phone line to a Google

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voice account. And this thing can be used to filter

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your calls. Oh, that's another powerful tool.

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It's going to filter it right on your phone.

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It can filter it before it even gets to your phone. Okay.

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So I know my, like my mother and my father, both,

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they get constant. I haven't done this for them. And

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now that I'm mentioning it, I'm probably going to do

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it for them later. But some of the tools that

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are going in place on Apple, for example, are really

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getting much better at filtering and getting rid of things

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like that. But you don't always have that luxury. So

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having a tool like this, where it'll give you the

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ability to send stuff directly to a voicemail, and you

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can open a web page and actually read the transcript

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of the message, If you're comfortable with a computer and

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you like it, this is one of the better ways

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to filter calls and deal with that. So that can

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really cut down how much comes, you know, those random

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phone calls that come to your phone.

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Right.

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It's intercepting ahead of time. It saves you so much

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on answering these crazy calls.

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Nice. All right.

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So so I don't want to get stuck here because

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this is only the first one. I'm going to just

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pop the slides back over here just so we have

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kind of a step-by-step here. And get that back up.

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There it is. There. Everything in the background wants to

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show up now. Let's see here. There. And I'm going

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to put that slide deck back on present. Oh, yes.

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You know why it looks just like a screen? Because

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it's a screenshot. So I'm going to show you two

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tools here that are in real time instead of on here,

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but this sidebar is Claude. Okay. This one here, you can,

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you can actually use Gemini in line to copy and

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paste things into, and you can do even a copilot

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inside of your email. And I did this, these screenshots

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primarily because I didn't want to bring up my live

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email necessarily. Right. Right. But yeah, The the idea here

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is that when you have the sidebar turned on, it

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slides out and you can copy and paste things right

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into it. And rather than showing you the slide, let

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me just this I'd set this up here so I

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could show you in real time a little bit. So

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let's go to an inbox. There we go. And I

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have your message to me earlier today. Just a quick, hey,

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we've got a meeting. But I want to show you

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how to get to these sidebars. And they're so brilliant

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if you can take advantage of them. So the first

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one here is Gemini. And I don't know. Can you

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tell me if you can see that?

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I mean, I can see it, but I can't read it.

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OK, let me just I'm going to jack this up really, really,

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really big here. Beyond, of course, none of the menus

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ever get magnified when you want them to. So I'm

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going to do, remember the screenshot trick? We're going to

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do the screenshot trick again. And here is the sidebar.

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And I'm going to bring that up in, here we go.

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There.

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That better? Okay. Yeah.

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All right.

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All right. So here you can find in, on the,

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when you hit the triple dot in the top right

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of your browser, if you're using Chrome specifically, you get, uh,

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this open Gemini Chrome down here. So you can use

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that as a, uh, placeholder here. And I don't need

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the text. I just want to show you that. There

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you go. So that's, that's what we're, what we're going

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for is the open Gemini in Chrome. Okay. And when

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you get that, uh, what it gives you is a

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sidebar that now while you're, you're talking and, uh, let's

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see if I can, there we go. Move that over here. So, uh,

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If something came up in an email and I didn't

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want to open it, I could copy and paste a

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chunk of it and go over here to the side

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and say, does this sound like a scam?

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And copy and put it in there. Okay. Hopefully it

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comes up and says no.

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Yeah, well, no, it should. It's just a simple email.

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Even if it doesn't, that's okay. At least you know

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you're seeing how it works. So this is digging in.

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And now one thing I will tell you, if people

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haven't already explained this, you should probably know. If you

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are using Google, Google Gmail, you have the option to

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opt in or opt out of whether or not Google

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can look at your emails. And that's important to know

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because maybe you don't want it to.

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Right.

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But on the other hand, if you say, you know,

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if you go into the trash and, you know, who

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knows what's going to be here. So I'm just going to,

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Leave that off to the side for a second. But

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let's say, are there any scam looking emails in my

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trash folder?

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Oh, you could probably do that for any folder. Correct.

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I'm trying to stick to the trash just so it's so.

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And I'm thinking if there's going to be one, it's

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going to be there.

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Right.

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So it's saying, I'm looking through your trash. And this

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is the point. If you opt into allowing Google to

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help you manage your inbox, you have this at your disposal.

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If you opt out of that, you don't, right?

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So that's what you were saying, that you can go

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into your settings and you can opt in to have

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Google have access to your emails.

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And if you want to use the Gemini tool as.

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far as like an email filtering, you're going to have

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to opt into that to say, yes, I allow Google

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to see my email.

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Yeah. And to be fair, I didn't think to prep

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on this point ahead of time. I think it's not

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in mail. It's actually in your account profile.

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Oh, okay.

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But here's the thing. How do I opt out of?

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Gemini scanning my email. So you can just ask the

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AI how to do it.

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And it'll tell you how you opt in and how

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you opt out.

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So that's the easy button to figure out how to

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get these tools turned on or off. And then once

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you're using them, there are so many ways you can

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ask it to look at my emails. Are there any

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fraudulent looking emails? And I did a scan. Now you

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can do this two ways. So this one is Gemini.

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Now let's go to Claude. So if you happen to

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be a Claude user, you can actually use this as well.

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And it'll ask you upfront, do you want to, you know,

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use it for your inbox? And I chose to. And

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you notice here one of the very first actions. When

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you have Claude, Claude is probably the most sophisticated, generally speaking,

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the most sophisticated of all the AI tools that are

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out there right now, primarily because it's built for coders.

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Okay.

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The key to this is that you're opting in, you're

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allowing it to scan your inbox. Now, I use this

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inbox specifically for nothing truly personal. I have a totally

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separate email for that. There's some personal stuff in here,

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but I never put bank account information in here. I

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keep it very clean. But do you see this first one?

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I don't know if you can read it. Unsubscribe from

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promotional emails.

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Exactly. So you know how many times you go through

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and you're like, I'm getting spammed with all of these emails?

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Absolutely, yes.

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That thing will take it out ahead of time.

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I'm surprised that it actually comes up and that's the

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first thing it asks you. Because normally that type of

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stuff is buried.

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Yes, exactly. And that's the advantage of using a tool

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like this. You notice, I don't think Gemini offered us

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that right up front. So if I close Gemini for

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a minute, I don't know if it's just going to

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keep that same window. Yeah, it's going to start. I'm

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going to start fresh here with a new chat. And

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here we go. What can you do? Come up with

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new ideas. Help me plan my trip for this weekend.

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So it's doing more productivity things out of the box.

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The last security thing. Now, Claude knew I was very concerned.

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Last time I used it, I did a search on

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my inbox to say, show me the bad stuff.

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Okay.

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So it already knew and it remembered that the last

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time I did this, I was doing something purely for security.

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So the very first thing it offered me was something

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security related.

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Okay.

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And in this case here, I could probably get this

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to do the same thing after a couple tries. The

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next time it came up, it might do the same thing.

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if it remembered the context of it. So I'm not

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too worried about that right now, but I just wanted

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you to know the difference between the two, they're very

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similar in terms of how they work and once they're connected,

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what they can do. But the one thing about Opus,

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in order for this to work, you need to install

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a plugin. So you actually have to go here to

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the little extensions and go down and manage extensions. And

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I'll do it just so we can see. If it's

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not already here, you're going to have to go to

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the Chrome Web Store and look up Claude. Yeah. Now,

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the other way you can do it is you could

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just ask Claude to do it. You can actually go

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to the Claude web page and say, install the extension,

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and it'll install it for you right from if you

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have Claude.

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So, you know, this is another reason why.

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You want to have a trusted tech support person because

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your tech support person probably already knows how.

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To do this.

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And you could do a tutorial and you could do

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it without them physically being with you. You could do

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it online like we're doing it. Or they can come

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and you guys can sit down to, you know, together.

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But this is another reason is that they can, you know,

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help you do that.

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Yeah.

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And be able to help you use that. Gemini, Claude, ChatGBT,

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and different red flags to.

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Look out for.

467
00:24:36.220 --> 00:24:42.099
Absolutely. So let me hop over to back to the

468
00:24:42.180 --> 00:24:44.059
deck because like I said, there's quite a few in

469
00:24:44.099 --> 00:24:46.279
here and I don't want to miss out on giving

470
00:24:46.339 --> 00:24:50.730
you some of these where it might help folks. So

471
00:24:50.950 --> 00:24:54.509
I think the Gemini, the The one thing I will

472
00:24:54.549 --> 00:24:56.829
point out, remember when I said at the beginning, I

473
00:24:56.869 --> 00:24:59.890
have a preference between all of the different AI tools.

474
00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:04.119
If you want good quality AI, you're going to have

475
00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:06.220
to pay for it. And most, almost all of them,

476
00:25:06.259 --> 00:25:07.920
it's somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 bucks a month.

477
00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:09.940
It's not that expensive.

478
00:25:09.980 --> 00:25:15.230
But generally that's, that's about the ballpark. The two that

479
00:25:15.710 --> 00:25:20.750
I don't like using much, ironically, is Claude and ChatGPT.

480
00:25:21.690 --> 00:25:25.289
And the reason is they are now coming into what

481
00:25:25.349 --> 00:25:29.950
is called kind of a token. Everything you do is

482
00:25:29.990 --> 00:25:34.200
a token. And so every character that you type when

483
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:38.619
you type instructions, it becomes what's called the context window.

484
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:42.440
So the more characters, the more lines of whatever instructions

485
00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:46.700
you give it, the more complex the instruction, the more

486
00:25:46.779 --> 00:25:50.410
tokens it burns to go ask the question. And this

487
00:25:50.470 --> 00:25:53.470
morning I was using Claude to help me do something

488
00:25:53.950 --> 00:25:57.849
on a coding practice. I got about 15% of the

489
00:25:57.869 --> 00:26:00.630
way into it. And it went, you used up your,

490
00:26:00.910 --> 00:26:04.640
your subscribed amount. I have a $ 20 a month subscription

491
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:07.400
on Claude and I burned through them in a 30

492
00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:08.019
minute session.

493
00:26:08.339 --> 00:26:08.640
Wow.

494
00:26:09.180 --> 00:26:09.420
Okay.

495
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:10.900
Cause you only get so many tokens.

496
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:14.450
Exactly. But if I use rock or Gemini, they don't

497
00:26:14.529 --> 00:26:18.730
do that. So that's something to be thinking about. Um, Now,

498
00:26:18.950 --> 00:26:22.720
I will say someday maybe Grok will catch up in

499
00:26:22.900 --> 00:26:26.619
all of its capabilities to the other platforms. And based

500
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:29.440
on what I hear their roadmap is, they probably will.

501
00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.279
And they'll probably far exceed everybody else at some point

502
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:36.309
because their data centers are going to be massive compared

503
00:26:36.329 --> 00:26:40.190
to everybody else. But Gemini is probably the biggest. Google

504
00:26:40.529 --> 00:26:45.849
is the biggest, most powerful, best deal for everything you

505
00:26:45.869 --> 00:26:50.349
could possibly do for an AI at the moment. And so,

506
00:26:50.410 --> 00:26:54.329
you know, you pay for Google one AI as a service.

507
00:26:54.509 --> 00:26:56.930
It's in general somewhere around 20 bucks a month again.

508
00:26:56.990 --> 00:26:57.269
Okay.

509
00:26:58.029 --> 00:27:01.809
Once you have it, your access is not unlimited, but

510
00:27:01.930 --> 00:27:05.950
it's high. It's very high. I've almost never run out

511
00:27:05.990 --> 00:27:10.279
of queries with that. And, you know, I've done like

512
00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:13.460
nano banana making images and all kinds of different things

513
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:15.500
and really, really use the heck out of it. And

514
00:27:15.539 --> 00:27:19.950
it just keeps on chugging. All right. But that said,

515
00:27:20.970 --> 00:27:23.670
getting back to what we talked about at the beginning,

516
00:27:23.690 --> 00:27:28.930
when I talked about recording, the voice, the video impersonation

517
00:27:28.950 --> 00:27:31.670
is going to be a little more difficult. But you

518
00:27:31.690 --> 00:27:34.609
have to ask yourself, are you answering just any random

519
00:27:35.490 --> 00:27:39.740
FaceTime call coming into your phone? Probably not. Right. If

520
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:42.000
you don't see somebody's face that you know on the

521
00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:45.279
other side, you're probably going, eh. And if you do...

522
00:27:46.029 --> 00:27:48.049
I mean, most of the time, let's face it, we

523
00:27:48.130 --> 00:27:51.210
plan these FaceTimes because you don't want to receive a

524
00:27:51.259 --> 00:27:54.519
FaceTime call while you're in the restroom. So what do

525
00:27:54.539 --> 00:27:57.500
you do? You say, hey, Junior, I'm going to call

526
00:27:57.539 --> 00:28:00.640
you at 5 o'clock. So you know when it's coming.

527
00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:03.599
You know that way you're in the right place. You've

528
00:28:03.619 --> 00:28:05.759
got maybe a little bit of lighting working for you.

529
00:28:05.779 --> 00:28:08.240
You're in the room you want to be in. So

530
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:11.559
it's probably less likely that you're going to get a

531
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.380
video call, but you will get the voice call. And

532
00:28:15.539 --> 00:28:17.259
that's why recording is so important.

533
00:28:19.420 --> 00:28:22.200
Absolutely. Those voice cloning calls come all the time.

534
00:28:22.220 --> 00:28:23.079
Yeah.

535
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:25.799
And here's the thing. If the voice cloning calls come in,

536
00:28:27.140 --> 00:28:30.500
the minute you start recording, it's going to audibly tell

537
00:28:30.579 --> 00:28:33.500
the other end that you're recording, at which point it

538
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:35.779
might have an auto exit and just say, see ya,

539
00:28:36.660 --> 00:28:39.660
and you get hung up on. If it's a legitimate call,

540
00:28:39.819 --> 00:28:41.529
a real legitimate call, and you say, I'm going to

541
00:28:41.549 --> 00:28:45.490
record this, and you hit record, The other party will go, okay,

542
00:28:45.650 --> 00:28:47.009
that's fair. It's business.

543
00:28:47.410 --> 00:28:47.750
I get it.

544
00:28:48.390 --> 00:28:50.690
But if it's somebody trying to scam you, they're going

545
00:28:50.710 --> 00:28:52.589
to be like, oh, wait a minute. Nope, nope. So

546
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:54.859
it's defense. That's really the whole point.

547
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:58.440
Well, it's just like if you're on a Zoom or

548
00:28:58.500 --> 00:29:04.220
a Google Meet or Microsoft Teams, right? If somebody is

549
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:07.890
going to record it, then it's going to pop up

550
00:29:07.950 --> 00:29:10.700
on your screen and you have to agree to it.

551
00:29:11.490 --> 00:29:15.589
Exactly. No. I will tell you, you can record almost

552
00:29:15.750 --> 00:29:20.369
anything without being detected. If you just happen to have

553
00:29:21.450 --> 00:29:23.910
something that you would record, like what we're doing right now,

554
00:29:24.569 --> 00:29:26.869
there's an offline version where you can record a show.

555
00:29:27.769 --> 00:29:31.609
And if you have one installed on your computer, you

556
00:29:31.650 --> 00:29:35.369
can record anything. And so if you're just trying to

557
00:29:35.410 --> 00:29:39.470
protect yourself, it's good to have a recording cool tool

558
00:29:39.710 --> 00:29:43.970
that you can use. Um, you know, obviously be very,

559
00:29:44.230 --> 00:29:47.839
you have to be ethical in your actions, but absolutely.

560
00:29:48.339 --> 00:29:52.619
But if you think you're getting scammed, um, it's, you know,

561
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.339
there's a, there's a line there where you can say,

562
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:57.079
you know what, I'm going to just go along with

563
00:29:57.099 --> 00:29:59.349
this for a And I'm going to record it and

564
00:29:59.369 --> 00:30:02.509
I'm not going to tell them. And, you know, because you,

565
00:30:02.829 --> 00:30:05.750
you already suspect you have a scam going on here. Right.

566
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:08.009
And you can tell them before the call ends, you know, I,

567
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:10.839
by the way, I recorded this and if they freak out, boom,

568
00:30:10.859 --> 00:30:14.880
you know, you're, you know, you inform them as the

569
00:30:15.220 --> 00:30:17.960
law requires, even if you record it a little early,

570
00:30:18.009 --> 00:30:20.170
but at least you inform them, but you watch how

571
00:30:20.230 --> 00:30:23.089
quick they go. But if you captured some of the stuff,

572
00:30:23.269 --> 00:30:27.130
maybe you can actually, you know, protect yourself if you

573
00:30:27.170 --> 00:30:29.099
need recourse. Right. Right.

574
00:30:29.190 --> 00:30:31.710
And if it was a scam and you're reporting it,

575
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:34.559
you can, you know, give the recording to law enforcement.

576
00:30:34.940 --> 00:30:36.940
Exactly. And as long as you say it right before

577
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:39.940
the end, look, I recorded this, you know, it's still

578
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:42.059
to the letter of the law. It's not perfect because

579
00:30:42.099 --> 00:30:44.089
you really should tell them at the beginning.

580
00:30:44.230 --> 00:30:44.490
Right.

581
00:30:44.890 --> 00:30:49.609
But again, if you suspect you're being scammed, this is self-defense. Yeah.

582
00:30:49.970 --> 00:30:52.880
You know, so But I would always err on the

583
00:30:52.910 --> 00:30:56.009
side of ethical, logical, don't do it.

584
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:56.799
Absolutely.

585
00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:01.099
You have to be ethical about it.

586
00:31:01.220 --> 00:31:05.660
Now, the AI chatbots that we talked about, same concept.

587
00:31:05.849 --> 00:31:09.710
Use those browser extensions for that. That's what the browser

588
00:31:09.750 --> 00:31:14.730
extension piece was all about, the sidebar. Use the sidebar

589
00:31:14.869 --> 00:31:17.029
anytime you're in a chat. And by the way, I

590
00:31:17.259 --> 00:31:20.529
don't know if you're a Windows user. There's a new

591
00:31:20.589 --> 00:31:24.660
Windows feature that you can connect your Android or your

592
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:28.839
iPhone to your computer, and it'll pop up your text

593
00:31:28.900 --> 00:31:33.259
messages on your computer, just like an Apple would do. Okay.

594
00:31:33.660 --> 00:31:35.650
It's a feature. I'm not going to go through it

595
00:31:35.660 --> 00:31:38.329
because the setup on it is painful. But if you

596
00:31:38.369 --> 00:31:41.190
can do it, and if you want to protect yourself,

597
00:31:41.230 --> 00:31:42.930
that's one of the best ways because you can just

598
00:31:42.970 --> 00:31:45.430
there on a screen, copy and paste in your AI

599
00:31:45.470 --> 00:31:46.630
and go, is this real?

600
00:31:47.369 --> 00:31:48.150
Yes, it's a lot easier.

601
00:31:49.109 --> 00:31:52.009
I think it's a lot more user-friendly to do it

602
00:31:52.190 --> 00:31:53.049
on a bigger screen.

603
00:31:53.069 --> 00:31:56.839
Yeah. Now, this slide here is kind of going to

604
00:31:56.950 --> 00:31:59.880
something we talked about on a previous one, which is

605
00:32:00.460 --> 00:32:04.660
when you're not sure of a URL, sometimes you open that.

606
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:11.619
If you're on a web email client like Hotmail, Gmail,

607
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:15.150
they pop up the message for you. They show you

608
00:32:15.190 --> 00:32:18.529
the link, but they don't activate it, so you're not compromised.

609
00:32:18.900 --> 00:32:21.950
But you can right-click on that link and copy it

610
00:32:22.490 --> 00:32:25.970
and then go out to a tool like this. Yeah.

611
00:32:26.009 --> 00:32:28.329
And paste the URL in and say, is that safe?

612
00:32:29.549 --> 00:32:29.809
You know?

613
00:32:30.250 --> 00:32:30.470
Right.

614
00:32:30.490 --> 00:32:33.259
The way I pick on which one of these to use,

615
00:32:33.940 --> 00:32:37.180
whatever your antivirus is, for the most part, they probably

616
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:42.940
have one. So there's Bitdefender. There's Malwarebytes. There's, if you've

617
00:32:42.980 --> 00:32:43.779
got McAfee.

618
00:32:43.819 --> 00:32:45.380
McAfee, right. All that stuff.

619
00:32:45.420 --> 00:32:45.960
Norton.

620
00:32:45.980 --> 00:32:47.240
There's a whole bunch of them out there.

621
00:32:47.289 --> 00:32:47.400
Yeah.

622
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:52.119
Again, a good trusted tech support person can help you

623
00:32:52.180 --> 00:32:55.349
navigate this and show you how this works.

624
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:58.609
How to get this installed. Exactly. And you should have it.

625
00:32:58.750 --> 00:33:04.390
I've got two of them installed on mine. First off, automatically,

626
00:33:04.450 --> 00:33:07.690
it's going to protect you to make sure you don't

627
00:33:07.730 --> 00:33:11.069
pop something up you shouldn't. It'll stop it in many cases.

628
00:33:11.690 --> 00:33:15.420
So if you have the extension turned on, you're in

629
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:21.000
a good place. So that's, that's an important one to not. Yeah.

630
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:23.980
You know, speaking of the URLs, right.

631
00:33:26.289 --> 00:33:29.690
It can, I've seen it in a text before a

632
00:33:31.029 --> 00:33:33.329
screenshot of a text message where they have the link

633
00:33:33.369 --> 00:33:37.529
in there and it's spelled out and it starts with

634
00:33:37.549 --> 00:33:42.769
the H TTP S and then it should be a

635
00:33:42.849 --> 00:33:46.440
colon of And then two forward slashes.

636
00:33:46.460 --> 00:33:47.180
Right.

637
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:50.019
But I've seen it where you.

638
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.319
Just look at it and you're like, well, yeah, that, okay,

639
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:53.839
it's got the S, it's a secure.

640
00:33:53.859 --> 00:33:56.019
And you're like, okay. And then you go through and no,

641
00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:58.660
that looks right. But guess what? It was actually missing

642
00:33:58.720 --> 00:33:59.369
the colon.

643
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:06.849
And, but again, you're already in your mind thinking HTTPS colon,

644
00:34:07.250 --> 00:34:09.070
you know, you're not saying it like that, but you're,

645
00:34:09.250 --> 00:34:11.449
you're looking for it. And it would be so easy

646
00:34:12.010 --> 00:34:14.590
to just miss that colon and, But if you put

647
00:34:14.630 --> 00:34:17.710
it into something like you just showed, it's going to

648
00:34:17.750 --> 00:34:20.920
pick up that that's not, that's not a, well.

649
00:34:21.420 --> 00:34:25.519
And, and just to be very candid on this, if

650
00:34:25.579 --> 00:34:28.719
somebody is really, really working to get you, I mean,

651
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.980
not just some random drive by, but somebody is actively

652
00:34:32.019 --> 00:34:35.590
really trying to mess with you. They can stand up

653
00:34:35.650 --> 00:34:40.949
an HTTPS site and bring you back to it. And

654
00:34:41.110 --> 00:34:44.070
it'll fool your browser. You know, it, but that's where

655
00:34:44.090 --> 00:34:46.489
the URL checker will say, yeah, but it's not on

656
00:34:46.510 --> 00:34:48.789
the right server. It's not in the place I expect

657
00:34:48.849 --> 00:34:51.449
it to be. It's coming in from a different country.

658
00:34:51.690 --> 00:34:55.269
So that's where the URL checkers in addition to the HTTPS,

659
00:34:56.130 --> 00:34:59.630
it's gold because it prevents you from getting into trouble.

660
00:35:00.050 --> 00:35:00.409
Well, right.

661
00:35:00.429 --> 00:35:02.389
It's going to give you all the information, right? And

662
00:35:02.429 --> 00:35:04.130
you could go, okay, well, wait a minute. Why is

663
00:35:04.150 --> 00:35:05.590
this originating from Africa?

664
00:35:06.230 --> 00:35:07.190
Yeah, exactly.

665
00:35:07.369 --> 00:35:07.630
Yeah.

666
00:35:08.369 --> 00:35:12.030
So that's, you know, really important. And always, if you,

667
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.070
it's hard to remember to do these things. That's why

668
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:19.150
it's so important to have the, uh, the plugins installed

669
00:35:19.349 --> 00:35:23.050
or the extensions installed, installed to your browser ahead of time,

670
00:35:23.289 --> 00:35:26.949
because it's, it really is a big thing. So let's

671
00:35:26.989 --> 00:35:31.360
go on a little bit or refund customer service impersonation scams.

672
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:32.179
Those are huge.

673
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:37.519
These, yeah, these become, uh, these are the hardest ones because, uh, well,

674
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:42.940
I will say this, Microsoft will never call you from

675
00:35:42.980 --> 00:35:44.219
their tech support department.

676
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:48.820
No, it's hard to even find their tech support phone

677
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:50.889
number to even try to contact them.

678
00:35:50.929 --> 00:35:53.280
They're not going to call you.

679
00:35:53.409 --> 00:35:55.659
One thing to think about, I want you to put

680
00:35:55.699 --> 00:35:58.690
this as a scam prevention in your brain right off

681
00:35:58.710 --> 00:36:02.550
the bat. Tech support is a cost center. It's an

682
00:36:02.630 --> 00:36:05.989
expense for every business that has to have one. And

683
00:36:06.030 --> 00:36:08.489
they pay people like me or people, you know, I

684
00:36:08.590 --> 00:36:11.530
used to do tech support early in my career. They

685
00:36:11.550 --> 00:36:14.750
pay people a fair amount of money to a lot

686
00:36:14.789 --> 00:36:18.940
of money to do tech support or they do contracts

687
00:36:19.019 --> 00:36:21.159
overseas where it might be cheaper, but they still have

688
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:22.519
a big contract to do that.

689
00:36:22.940 --> 00:36:23.139
Right.

690
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:25.599
It's a cost center and there's no such thing as

691
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:30.800
outbound customer tech support. There's outbound sales, but not tech support.

692
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:34.670
So you should remember that anytime somebody says, yeah, we

693
00:36:34.690 --> 00:36:37.949
just detected blah, blah, blah. Nobody's going to call you

694
00:36:38.469 --> 00:36:41.269
ever to tell you that they thought you were scammed.

695
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:43.519
The only thing that might pop up is if you

696
00:36:43.579 --> 00:36:45.760
have something like malware bites and it goes, Hey, by

697
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:48.300
the way, I see that you've been hacked. You might

698
00:36:48.340 --> 00:36:50.469
want to take advantage of this, but you should be

699
00:36:50.530 --> 00:36:54.110
seeing that in the client application. And we're actually going

700
00:36:54.130 --> 00:36:58.250
to be, uh, my dad always picks the right time

701
00:36:58.289 --> 00:37:08.079
to call. Guess, guess why I'm texting. So there we go. Um, so, uh,

702
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:12.599
In this instance, though, when tech support, and it's ironic

703
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:14.800
because that's exactly why he's calling me, he needs help

704
00:37:14.820 --> 00:37:22.070
with something. But tech support, refund services, all of that stuff,

705
00:37:22.329 --> 00:37:26.309
it's going to be outside of the scope of what

706
00:37:26.349 --> 00:37:28.949
a business would do. A legitimate business would never do that.

707
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:32.500
So just bear that in mind. Unless you know that

708
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:35.719
you bought into a service plan where somebody is going

709
00:37:35.739 --> 00:37:37.739
to call you and you paid for that, which is

710
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:38.960
probably pretty expensive.

711
00:37:39.780 --> 00:37:40.000
Yeah.

712
00:37:40.340 --> 00:37:40.679
Yeah.

713
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:42.900
I mean, I've, I've run into that before where I've

714
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:46.480
been trying to, to get ahold of, you know, trying

715
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:48.659
to find tech support and I can't get to them.

716
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:50.969
And so then I just call the sales number cause

717
00:37:51.010 --> 00:37:54.030
I know somebody is going to pick up, but.

718
00:37:53.949 --> 00:37:56.250
I still can't get through. They're like, no, do you

719
00:37:56.269 --> 00:37:58.130
have a plan? And blah, blah, blah.

720
00:37:59.469 --> 00:38:03.170
Now this one here, um, uh, I'm bringing this one up. I, I,

721
00:38:03.309 --> 00:38:06.230
you know, it's, it's always uncomfortable talking about anything that's,

722
00:38:06.769 --> 00:38:07.010
you know.

723
00:38:07.530 --> 00:38:11.090
Sex, you know, but, but it happens all the time.

724
00:38:11.469 --> 00:38:14.670
Yeah. You have to talk about it. So number one,

725
00:38:15.030 --> 00:38:17.250
if you get an email, I'm sure you've already mentioned this,

726
00:38:17.309 --> 00:38:19.610
but if anybody sends you an email and it goes

727
00:38:19.650 --> 00:38:22.050
into your junk mail and it says, Hey, we have

728
00:38:22.070 --> 00:38:27.610
dirty pictures of you. Don't ever click on period because they're,

729
00:38:27.989 --> 00:38:32.300
they're trying to scare you into clicking like, Oh my goodness.

730
00:38:32.530 --> 00:38:36.539
You know what happened? Um, And it's terrible because obviously

731
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:40.559
it's already playing on somebody's guilt because those emails typically

732
00:38:40.619 --> 00:38:44.019
come in because somebody in your house went to a

733
00:38:44.059 --> 00:38:48.570
porn website. God forbid, but whatever, it does happen, right?

734
00:38:50.010 --> 00:38:53.050
Now that that has happened, every other person in the

735
00:38:53.090 --> 00:38:57.309
house is exposed. Every other person in the house now

736
00:38:57.369 --> 00:39:00.280
will probably get in their junk mail. We have compromising

737
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:04.559
pictures of you, which they don't. It's just that That

738
00:39:04.619 --> 00:39:08.360
is the play. But this one is a little different. Nowadays,

739
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:14.849
especially on Facebook or whatever, there are people doing things

740
00:39:14.889 --> 00:39:17.730
where they take a perfectly fully clothed picture of you

741
00:39:17.750 --> 00:39:22.889
and then transform it into a nude using AI. And

742
00:39:22.949 --> 00:39:27.929
that's just about as bad. It's not as bad because technically, yes,

743
00:39:27.989 --> 00:39:29.989
they could publish that, but you can say, look, it's AI.

744
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:32.420
Look at how great it made me look, you know?

745
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:39.199
But you have to realize that you want to never

746
00:39:39.300 --> 00:39:42.739
react when something like that comes across your bow. The

747
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:46.920
first thing you want to do is capture the image

748
00:39:46.980 --> 00:39:51.130
and use those sidebar AIs to to say, is this real?

749
00:39:51.670 --> 00:39:53.710
Where did they get this? How did they get this?

750
00:39:53.869 --> 00:39:54.170
Right.

751
00:39:54.630 --> 00:39:54.869
Yeah.

752
00:39:54.929 --> 00:39:58.079
It'll do a reverse image search type thing for you

753
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.280
and tell you where it originated from and what the

754
00:40:00.380 --> 00:40:03.099
original picture looked like. I mean, I've gotten those emails,

755
00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:07.260
you know, before and, you know, actually I've, I've gotten

756
00:40:07.300 --> 00:40:10.739
voicemails before. It's been a long time. It's been a

757
00:40:10.780 --> 00:40:15.000
few years, you know, saying we've got compromising information or

758
00:40:15.059 --> 00:40:18.099
pictures or whatever and, or we know what you've been

759
00:40:18.139 --> 00:40:23.670
doing and we're going to leak it out to whatever.

760
00:40:23.750 --> 00:40:26.030
And I'm just like, okay, fine, go ahead.

761
00:40:26.969 --> 00:40:30.650
And just as a simple thing I want to mention,

762
00:40:30.789 --> 00:40:34.019
we're talking in the previous one here. Well, no, this one.

763
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:39.059
I mentioned going to a porn website, right? Now I

764
00:40:39.099 --> 00:40:42.090
want to just talk about what a porn, what the

765
00:40:42.230 --> 00:40:44.789
thing is with porn websites right off the bat. Now

766
00:40:44.829 --> 00:40:47.260
it's not so much that nobody wants to think, Oh,

767
00:40:47.309 --> 00:40:49.349
am I, am I going to go to, but, but

768
00:40:49.409 --> 00:40:51.889
somebody in your family might, but here's the thing. You

769
00:40:51.949 --> 00:40:54.550
should bring this message to the people, you know, and

770
00:40:54.570 --> 00:40:58.789
that is, um, they've already proven that, um, porn hub

771
00:40:59.130 --> 00:41:04.050
as an example actually is a, um, uh, child. What

772
00:41:04.110 --> 00:41:04.409
is that?

773
00:41:04.699 --> 00:41:05.449
Um, yeah.

774
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:06.360
Exploitation.

775
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:07.420
Yeah. Yeah.

776
00:41:07.579 --> 00:41:08.920
They're doing child trafficking.

777
00:41:09.219 --> 00:41:09.440
Yeah.

778
00:41:09.739 --> 00:41:13.170
So, um, You don't want to be letting anybody you

779
00:41:13.250 --> 00:41:15.849
know get involved in any of that.

780
00:41:16.110 --> 00:41:16.989
Yeah.

781
00:41:17.269 --> 00:41:20.630
So bring that message to anybody you know. Yeah. And

782
00:41:21.010 --> 00:41:23.670
everybody in your household, look, I expect you not to

783
00:41:23.690 --> 00:41:24.510
go to these sites because.

784
00:41:24.530 --> 00:41:27.690
Right. That is a slippery slope really quickly.

785
00:41:27.710 --> 00:41:28.769
Yeah.

786
00:41:29.110 --> 00:41:29.650
Absolutely.

787
00:41:30.190 --> 00:41:33.170
I don't think there's been a case of any person

788
00:41:33.289 --> 00:41:36.269
who goes to one of those sites getting prosecuted.

789
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.460
No, but definitely going to get investigated. Yeah.

790
00:41:39.860 --> 00:41:42.780
Yeah. And I will tell you, too, if you don't

791
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:46.679
like the idea of causing PTSD in other people.

792
00:41:46.969 --> 00:41:47.280
Yeah.

793
00:41:47.909 --> 00:41:50.949
Here's the thing to think about. The people that are

794
00:41:50.989 --> 00:41:53.869
trying to make sure that those sites don't have child

795
00:41:53.949 --> 00:41:57.909
porn are actually kind of like tech support people. And

796
00:41:57.929 --> 00:41:59.329
they have to go look at all those.

797
00:41:59.369 --> 00:42:00.219
Yeah, that's.

798
00:42:00.409 --> 00:42:02.900
And it's horrible to think that you're getting into that

799
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:06.460
and causing. These people are actually getting serious mental issues.

800
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:06.920
Yeah.

801
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:12.119
No, it's just like. If you can convince everybody you know,

802
00:42:12.510 --> 00:42:13.860
the last thing you want to do is do this.

803
00:42:13.889 --> 00:42:14.949
Is go on one of those sites.

804
00:42:15.110 --> 00:42:15.389
All right.

805
00:42:15.449 --> 00:42:16.650
Let's go to number seven.

806
00:42:16.710 --> 00:42:17.250
On to the next.

807
00:42:17.550 --> 00:42:18.510
I don't like that subject.

808
00:42:18.570 --> 00:42:20.230
I know. I hate it, too. But, you know, if

809
00:42:20.250 --> 00:42:21.429
you don't ever talk about it.

810
00:42:21.869 --> 00:42:22.670
Then nobody knows.

811
00:42:22.769 --> 00:42:25.760
And nobody knows. And it's better we just mention it.

812
00:42:25.969 --> 00:42:26.210
Yes.

813
00:42:27.090 --> 00:42:27.570
All right.

814
00:42:28.030 --> 00:42:31.340
Account takeovers. Account takeovers and anomalous activity. You know you

815
00:42:31.539 --> 00:42:35.280
can use two-factor authentication and password manager tools for this.

816
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:37.559
And I'm going to show you something in a minute

817
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:40.679
here on the password managers that I'm going to come

818
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:43.489
back to it after this. I'm going to just, I

819
00:42:43.530 --> 00:42:44.800
think I have, no, I'm going to do it right now.

820
00:42:44.820 --> 00:42:48.230
Here we go. Okay. So here's the, the concept is,

821
00:42:48.869 --> 00:42:50.710
you know, have you been compromised?

822
00:42:50.909 --> 00:42:51.530
Right. Right.

823
00:42:51.889 --> 00:42:58.090
And most of your tools like Roboform actually have tools

824
00:42:58.190 --> 00:43:00.769
built into it. And I pick on Roboform because I've

825
00:43:00.789 --> 00:43:03.179
been using them for about 20 years. And if they

826
00:43:03.219 --> 00:43:07.460
weren't constantly improving their product, I might've changed to other products. Okay.

827
00:43:07.949 --> 00:43:10.809
but they're so good after all of these years, they're

828
00:43:10.829 --> 00:43:13.269
not perfect. None of them are, but it's way better

829
00:43:13.309 --> 00:43:17.960
than nothing. So inside though, when you open the tool,

830
00:43:19.019 --> 00:43:21.940
they have this little shield icon and I'm going to,

831
00:43:21.940 --> 00:43:25.300
let me see if I can bring it up on

832
00:43:25.340 --> 00:43:31.969
a real webpage for a second. Let's go to this

833
00:43:32.050 --> 00:43:36.059
one here. So And I'm going to put it on

834
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:37.659
the other screen for just a moment.

835
00:43:38.059 --> 00:43:38.380
Okay.

836
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:42.639
Share everything in the world. But what I want to

837
00:43:42.699 --> 00:43:49.110
show you is the security center. And this I don't

838
00:43:49.130 --> 00:43:52.769
mind bringing over so much. You know, it's just an email.

839
00:43:52.809 --> 00:43:54.690
This is kind of a junky email that I use.

840
00:43:56.030 --> 00:43:59.610
But if your emails have ever been breached or compromised,

841
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:02.460
a lot of these password managers have tools to help

842
00:44:02.500 --> 00:44:04.750
you find that. And you can go in and just

843
00:44:04.789 --> 00:44:06.949
delete all of the access to them or make sure

844
00:44:06.969 --> 00:44:10.320
you do an update to your password. Okay. And then

845
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:15.320
use the security overview. This is AI going through and saying, hey,

846
00:44:15.460 --> 00:44:17.920
here's your weak passwords. Here's your reused password.

847
00:44:17.940 --> 00:44:19.139
Yeah, absolutely.

848
00:44:19.179 --> 00:44:21.300
Yeah. So really useful.

849
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:23.469
If you don't know how to do it, this is

850
00:44:23.489 --> 00:44:24.320
another one you can do.

851
00:44:24.750 --> 00:44:25.929
There's videos all over the place.

852
00:44:25.949 --> 00:44:27.929
Yeah, I've seen that with my password manager.

853
00:44:28.510 --> 00:44:31.420
Yeah. So it's a good, a very good one to use.

854
00:44:32.099 --> 00:44:34.380
know about and to take advantage of. And it's where

855
00:44:34.500 --> 00:44:37.079
AI is actually helping you because all of that's AI.

856
00:44:37.420 --> 00:44:38.760
Yeah.

857
00:44:38.820 --> 00:44:39.480
All right.

858
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:42.360
So we've got like three minutes.

859
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:44.010
Yep. Well, this is it.

860
00:44:44.090 --> 00:44:46.190
And I want to get to the why we should

861
00:44:46.349 --> 00:44:48.650
update our hardware and software in the coming months.

862
00:44:49.170 --> 00:44:53.030
You got it. So this is super, super straightforward. Password manager,

863
00:44:53.090 --> 00:44:56.250
we just talked about it. Do your security review periodically.

864
00:44:57.110 --> 00:44:59.570
Trend awareness. And you notice I've got a couple sites

865
00:44:59.670 --> 00:45:07.170
up here. gaza.org fraud.org and aarp.org all have great trend

866
00:45:07.250 --> 00:45:09.929
scam trend awareness and of course your show.

867
00:45:10.769 --> 00:45:15.480
Absolutely and our our social media yep absolutely yeah.

868
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.019
And then there is uh there are tools that you

869
00:45:19.059 --> 00:45:22.679
can actually find that do red flag training which is

870
00:45:23.019 --> 00:45:26.039
teaching you how to spot this stuff i'm sure you

871
00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:27.599
talk about this so i'm not going to go into

872
00:45:27.619 --> 00:45:30.699
that any further But there is one last thing, and

873
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:34.059
this is for the AI aficionados. At some point in

874
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.380
the future, you probably want to get involved with an

875
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:40.860
AI agent or something like that. The way AI agents

876
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:43.519
are working, you probably bring it all offline if you

877
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:46.030
have a nice, powerful computer at home, and you can

878
00:45:46.090 --> 00:45:48.989
run your AI locally and not use the cloud service,

879
00:45:49.050 --> 00:45:51.530
not burn tokens. It might be a little slower, but

880
00:45:51.550 --> 00:45:54.449
it works. You can create a dashboard on your own

881
00:45:54.530 --> 00:45:58.789
computer that actually has all of your security tools and

882
00:45:58.969 --> 00:46:02.190
aggregate all of the information on your own little dashboard,

883
00:46:02.510 --> 00:46:06.110
including a bunch of tools to protect you for your security.

884
00:46:06.730 --> 00:46:10.139
So that's a whole other topic. I won't go any

885
00:46:10.179 --> 00:46:13.199
further with that, but I just thought that would be

886
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:15.039
worth mentioning at the very end here.

887
00:46:15.380 --> 00:46:19.420
Yeah, so in the last minute or two here, Somebody

888
00:46:19.460 --> 00:46:24.079
that wants to use these AI tools to check whether

889
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:27.409
an email, a text, a voice recording, a picture, any

890
00:46:27.429 --> 00:46:33.789
of that stuff is safe or is it AI-generated, is

891
00:46:33.809 --> 00:46:36.769
it a scam likely, all of that stuff. There's got

892
00:46:36.789 --> 00:46:42.309
to be, just like any software, there's got to be security.

893
00:46:43.340 --> 00:46:47.090
patches and stuff like any software, you know, or updating

894
00:46:47.110 --> 00:46:51.670
your phone. So how, how secure are these and are

895
00:46:51.710 --> 00:46:53.829
they constantly coming out with updates?

896
00:46:55.030 --> 00:46:58.949
They are, you know, so depending on how you choose

897
00:46:58.989 --> 00:47:03.059
to use the different tools in some cases, you download

898
00:47:03.099 --> 00:47:06.159
a client like for chat GPT, you can actually have

899
00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:11.480
a product on your computer. If it doesn't automatically update

900
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:14.010
or ask you to update it, you can actually ask

901
00:47:14.090 --> 00:47:17.250
it directly check for updates and type it right in

902
00:47:17.309 --> 00:47:20.570
and it'll go check. As a matter of fact, one

903
00:47:20.590 --> 00:47:22.639
of the things that I like to do a lot

904
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:27.019
with all of my AIs is to, especially if I've

905
00:47:27.059 --> 00:47:31.880
got one like the client side, Claude is I can

906
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:35.789
ask it to check things running on my computer. Like,

907
00:47:35.809 --> 00:47:37.530
do I have the latest Java? Do I have the

908
00:47:37.550 --> 00:47:40.650
latest Python? These are different things that you would use.

909
00:47:40.809 --> 00:47:41.030
Okay.

910
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:44.110
You don't have to know all of the different technologies.

911
00:47:44.130 --> 00:47:48.449
You can say, what security items should I look at

912
00:47:48.670 --> 00:47:52.329
on my computer that are not covered by Windows security,

913
00:47:52.369 --> 00:47:55.409
for example? And the AI will go, oh, well, you

914
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:57.980
could do all of these things. And it'll walk you

915
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:00.039
through step-by-step exactly what to do.

916
00:48:00.340 --> 00:48:02.300
On how to do it, yeah. Yeah.

917
00:48:02.460 --> 00:48:05.400
And I know when we first talked yesterday, I'll just

918
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:08.090
put it on the screen for a second here, or

919
00:48:08.130 --> 00:48:16.199
not yesterday, but last week, I mentioned that The Glasswing

920
00:48:16.550 --> 00:48:18.110
and the Merlin.

921
00:48:18.489 --> 00:48:18.699
Yes.

922
00:48:19.010 --> 00:48:22.469
I think it was Merlin. I'm not sure if it's Merlin. Anyways,

923
00:48:22.750 --> 00:48:28.469
there's a new model that Anthropic put out. Anthropic is Claude,

924
00:48:28.590 --> 00:48:33.190
same product. That's this Claude Opus 4.7 on the side. Okay.

925
00:48:33.210 --> 00:48:38.650
So Anthropic is the company. Claude is the tool.

926
00:48:38.969 --> 00:48:39.130
Okay.

927
00:48:39.190 --> 00:48:40.190
And Opus is the model.

928
00:48:40.710 --> 00:48:41.010
Okay.

929
00:48:41.489 --> 00:48:47.260
So there's going to be a new model called, I

930
00:48:47.420 --> 00:48:51.059
think it's called Merlin, like I said. Anyways, it starts

931
00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:54.639
with an M. But it's going to be even more

932
00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:56.820
powerful than Opus. And what they did is they realized

933
00:48:56.940 --> 00:49:00.139
it was so powerful that it's actually able to look

934
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:03.489
at source code on existing applications and find bugs that

935
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:08.929
none of the existing application security is doing. And that's

936
00:49:08.969 --> 00:49:12.659
what Project Glasswing is all about. Is there actually using

937
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:17.449
these tools to go look at all the legacy products

938
00:49:17.469 --> 00:49:21.400
that are out there, your salesforce.com? google hotmail all of

939
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:25.400
these tools finding everything that's wrong with them and then

940
00:49:25.699 --> 00:49:29.699
pre-releasing anything that the ai is finding because the ai

941
00:49:29.739 --> 00:49:34.409
is finding way more than your typical um bug search

942
00:49:34.469 --> 00:49:36.630
tools have been finding up to this point.

943
00:49:37.349 --> 00:49:41.760
So which is going to When you get notifications that

944
00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:45.219
you have updates, whether it's for a device, whether it's

945
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:48.519
for software, an app, whatever it is, you got to

946
00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:51.150
make sure you do it because as this project gets

947
00:49:51.230 --> 00:49:53.329
out there and gets used more, it's going to find

948
00:49:53.369 --> 00:49:56.710
these security flaws. And then these companies are going to

949
00:49:57.510 --> 00:50:03.070
be fixing them. And the only way to get yours is.

950
00:50:03.050 --> 00:50:03.599
To update it.

951
00:50:04.050 --> 00:50:08.039
Right. And remember, it's almost always on you to protect

952
00:50:08.139 --> 00:50:11.429
your computer. You know, if you have an IT person

953
00:50:11.510 --> 00:50:14.869
because you work at a company, it's on them. That's great. Right.

954
00:50:14.889 --> 00:50:16.710
Because it's a company owns the computer.

955
00:50:16.829 --> 00:50:20.989
Whoever owns that computer, it's on that person to, or

956
00:50:21.030 --> 00:50:22.659
that company to keep it updated.

957
00:50:22.780 --> 00:50:23.320
Absolutely.

958
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:25.400
But if you're a home user, none of us have

959
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:32.000
tech support, you know? So, yeah. So the project Glasswing

960
00:50:32.179 --> 00:50:35.050
is just one of many, all of the different companies,

961
00:50:35.659 --> 00:50:39.550
Google's doing one. They're all, Trying to do the same thing,

962
00:50:39.590 --> 00:50:43.230
which is make sure that they help you find the

963
00:50:43.269 --> 00:50:46.690
problems before the problems get exploited. Right.

964
00:50:46.750 --> 00:50:50.019
And then they exploit you. Yes. That's good. I'm glad

965
00:50:50.059 --> 00:50:51.699
they're putting security at the forefront.

966
00:50:52.059 --> 00:50:57.599
Yeah. And I will say there's so there's two two

967
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:01.389
thoughts as to why they held back on this new model.

968
00:51:02.050 --> 00:51:04.829
The first one, of course, is because it's so powerful.

969
00:51:04.989 --> 00:51:07.860
It's finding all these flaws. The other one, remember I

970
00:51:07.900 --> 00:51:11.599
told you Anthropic is kind of a token generator?

971
00:51:11.619 --> 00:51:12.340
Yes, yeah.

972
00:51:12.539 --> 00:51:18.239
It's expensive. I created an agent on my own PC

973
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:22.099
at home to run locally, an OpenClaw agent. I burned

974
00:51:22.139 --> 00:51:25.420
through $ 50 in tokens in about two hours.

975
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:27.519
Yeah, so it gets expensive.

976
00:51:27.989 --> 00:51:29.840
It was super expensive. I'd shut it off. I wanted

977
00:51:29.860 --> 00:51:36.710
to go local. But the thing is, Anthropic doesn't own

978
00:51:36.769 --> 00:51:43.409
massive data centers like Gemini or like Google and technically Grok.

979
00:51:44.010 --> 00:51:45.130
They own their data centers.

980
00:51:45.250 --> 00:51:45.489
Yeah.

981
00:51:45.969 --> 00:51:49.230
So they have kind of semi unlimited compute and they

982
00:51:49.250 --> 00:51:54.050
can throw you access almost for free in some respects

983
00:51:54.550 --> 00:51:57.699
compared to Anthropic and open AI, because both of them,

984
00:51:58.340 --> 00:52:01.139
they're sitting on top of somebody else's data center. They're

985
00:52:01.179 --> 00:52:05.429
getting charged. That's why, um, OpenAI just killed the, I

986
00:52:05.449 --> 00:52:10.030
think it's called Sonnet, their video production thing. Because every

987
00:52:10.070 --> 00:52:12.349
time it was running, it was making all these great videos.

988
00:52:12.369 --> 00:52:14.550
It was costing them an arm and a leg.

989
00:52:14.849 --> 00:52:15.409
Yeah.

990
00:52:15.429 --> 00:52:19.000
And could have put them into bankruptcy potentially.

991
00:52:19.780 --> 00:52:20.960
Yeah.

992
00:52:20.980 --> 00:52:21.579
All right.

993
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:22.980
We are actually over.

994
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:23.920
Okay, sorry.

995
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:25.300
No, you're fine.

996
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:28.440
I'm just going to get a message from Juan pretty

997
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:29.000
soon saying.

998
00:52:29.019 --> 00:52:33.849
You got to cut. so so yeah the whole thing

999
00:52:33.929 --> 00:52:36.280
is just recognize there are people trying to protect us

1000
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:37.130
to a degree.

1001
00:52:36.860 --> 00:52:38.659
You still have to do a lot of that yourself

1002
00:52:38.940 --> 00:52:39.920
right you have to do your.

1003
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:42.260
Updates to help you protect yourself.

1004
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:45.679
Absolutely yep thank you david i really appreciate it you

1005
00:52:45.699 --> 00:52:48.280
got um all right guys really quickly we're going to

1006
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:50.800
wrap it up here um don't forget to get on

1007
00:52:50.820 --> 00:52:53.019
the website the home page has our social media links

1008
00:52:53.059 --> 00:52:55.179
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1009
00:52:55.219 --> 00:52:59.500
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1010
00:52:59.920 --> 00:53:03.260
we look happy Cinco de Mayo and be safe out

1011
00:53:03.300 --> 00:53:06.239
there today if you're going out. And we will see

1012
00:53:06.260 --> 00:53:07.239
you back next Tuesday.

1013
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:12.090
Well, that's all the knowledge for this episode. Tune in

1014
00:53:12.329 --> 00:53:16.429
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1015
00:53:16.550 --> 00:53:21.469
at K4HD. com as Joyce explores a variety of knowledge so

1016
00:53:21.610 --> 00:53:25.639
you have the power to make scam protection your healthy habit.

1017
00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:29.079
And until then, feel free to reach out to Joyce

1018
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:31.050
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