Aug. 26, 2025

Invite to a Party? Could it be a Scam...Plus Recent FBI PSA’s

Invite to a Party? Could it be a Scam...Plus Recent FBI PSA’s

Electronic invitations to a party, from a friend, safe right? Well not so fast. There is a new scam going around inside a party invite. Name of the company is legitimate, scammers are impersonating the real company.

Plus, recent FBI Public Service Announcements.

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so you don't miss an episode. So today I want

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to talk about a new scam that's going around. It's

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regarding if you get an invite from a friend, an

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invitation to a party. Okay, so I'm going to use

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the word evite because it's coming electronically I'm not one

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hundred percent positive that the scammers are impersonating evite, but

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I'm just using it as a term here. So you

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get an evite to a party from someone you know,

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your friend, and you open it because you're interested, right,

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You're curious. Okay, I got invited to a party and

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you're asked to put a password in to see the invitation.

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So the evite.

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Company is a real company, but this evite is not

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coming from that company. The scammers are impersonating the company.

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So when you check to see if the company is real,

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like you can google the company to see if it's

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a real evite company, it shows that it's a real company,

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So it's just that it's not from them. They're being impersonated.

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So when you enter the password, they ask you for

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your address, but it's too late. Once you've entered the password,

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they have access to your email account and can gain access.

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To your computer in some cases.

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And then they're going to go and target everybody that's

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in your address book and contact them with a evite

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to a party from you. And since you, since it

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shows that it's coming from you, your your contacts, your

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friends are going.

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To want to open it.

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And some people might, you know, something might click when

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it's like, Okay, why do I have to put a

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password in? Other people might be like, well, I have

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an account with this company, so yeah, I have to

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put my password in, you know, as my log in

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so I can go in and look at it. And

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so the cycle just keeps continuing and continuing with this

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impersonation scam, but then also being able to access your

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email account, which then gives them access to all of

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your contacts and all of your emails, which sometimes could

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have some personal information. Sometimes we send credit card information

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over our email. If you just think about all the

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different types of information that you might send over your email.

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But then it's very possible that they could gain access

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over your computer, which is going to be even more

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detrimental because if you log in too sensitive accounts, let's

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say financial accounts on your computer, and if they're in

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the background watching, well, then they can see your logins

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to your accounts. So you want to be very very

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careful with this. If you get an EVITE from somebody,

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and it's not just the invitation the electronic invitation company evite,

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there's other companies out there that they can be invite

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companies that they can be impersonating as well. If you

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see that email come through and it's a party invitation,

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check with your friend or the contact whoever it is.

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First use the verified channels. That's your friend, you're going

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to have their verified phone number, call them directly and

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find out if this actually is a legitimate invite from

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your friend before you get in and start looking around.

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That's going to safeguard you from having somebody take over

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your email account and or worse your computer. So this

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information just came into me last week, and they're the person.

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That scent it.

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Is still gathering information on this email scam, so once

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as I get more information on it, we'll be putting

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more information out, not only on this radio show, but

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we're going to be putting it out on on social media.

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So you're gonna want to make sure you if you're

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on Facebook, follow us on Facebook, if you're on LinkedIn,

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we're there, Instagram, we post just about every day, and

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we're going to have this information on social media as well.

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If anybody has has seen this scam come around, we're

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very interested to know more about it, so please shoot

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us an email comment on the Facebook post regarding this

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radio show, give us a call and let us know,

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be very interested to see how they you know, see

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the actual email that comes in if you still have

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it all right, now, we're going to move on to

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there's four FBI public service announcements that we're going to

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go over, dating back. The first one's the end of June.

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I'm going to see here if I can share my screen,

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there we go. So the first one is June twenty seventh,

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and it's titled Criminals posing as legitimate health insures and

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fraud investigators to commit health care fraud. See if I

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can't put this up here in front of me. So

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when the FBI puts out these public service announcements, they're

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seeing an uptick in these types of scams and frauds

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that are going on, and so they put these out

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to warn people. So they're definitely seeing an uptick in this.

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So the FBI.

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Warns about this impersonation scam where where criminals are impersonating

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health insurers, so health insurance companies and they're investigative team members.

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They're sending emails and text messages to patients and healthcare providers,

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disguising them as legitimate communications from trusted healthcare authorities, and

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the messages are going to pressure victims into disclosing protected

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health information, medical records, personal financial details, or providing reimbursements

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for alleged service over payments or non covered services. So

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be careful with that. This not only can steal your

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personal information, your medical information, but it can also steal

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your money. Like with non covered services, they could say

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something's not covered and you owe money for it. So

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tips to protect yourself Always be suspicious when you get

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those unsolicited emails, text messages, phone calls. If you did

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not initiate it, be suspicious about it.

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It's unfortunate. I know, I know.

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When I grew up, well, we didn't have email when

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I was growing up, but when it did come into play,

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we had that belief where we could just trust and

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so we just automatically trusted the email and for a

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certain amount of time, you know, we could do that,

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that whole trust, but verify and we could verify later

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if we wanted to, and ninety nine percent of the time.

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We were good.

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Well, Unfortunately the world is so much different today that

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we can't just throw that trust out and just automatically trust.

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We have to be suspicious and that's what we call

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that healthy skepticism. Skepticism can be very healthy when you're

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trying to protect yourself and your finances. So have that

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healthy skepticism and just pause, ask yourself, why am I

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getting this email? Why am I getting this phone call?

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Why am I getting this text message?

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Question it?

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well pull your health insurance card out and they're going

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to have a customer service number on it. Call that

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customer service number and find out what's going on. That's

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your way to verify what's going on. And be very

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careful if you are if you open the email, that

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you don't click on any links. And I know if

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you're looking at emails on your phone, it can be

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very hard to not click on a link because you

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have a very small screen that you're working with. So

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just be very very careful with that. I know sometimes

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if we go to use our finger to scroll scroll

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down to read the email, sometimes it could hit the

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wrong place and you've clicked on a link.

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Why you should always have that good antivirus software and

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that anti malware software on your phone. A lot of

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people have it on their laptops, their desktops, their iPads.

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to have it or a mobile I should say a

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mobile computer. You need to have that on your phone

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as well, because having that software, if it was a

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bad link, chances are that software is going to come

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up and warn you that this is a malicious site.

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it's a safeguard you can put in place. Always use

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strong passwords and multi factor authentication with all of your accounts,

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passwords as well.

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Software updated and your operating system updated as well.

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The next one is let me see, let Me move here?

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Is this one public service announcement came out on July third.

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It's called Fraudsted's target US stock investors through investment clubs

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as accessed on social media and messaging applications. So criminals

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are out there trying to get you to maybe join

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an investment club, get you to invest in stock. They're

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contacting you through messaging applications social media so like Facebook

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is one in particular, it has the messaging app with it,

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so maybe they get a hold of you on the

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messaging app because maybe they've they've cloned someone else a

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friend of yours account, and you received a friend request

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from your friend and you just automatically accepted. I actually

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just had that happen to a family member this morning.

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They were like, oh, oh, I think someone's cloned so

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and So's account, and I said, yeah, they did. I

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already let them know about it. And they're like, I

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accidentally accepted that friend request, so they had to go

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in and unfriend them or unfriended that fake account. But

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that's that's a common way that they'll get you on

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Facebook and then they message you and then they want

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to take it over to a more secure messaging app

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like WhatsApp. And I'm sure there's other ones out there.

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But let's see what this public service announcement says. So,

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so far in twenty twenty five, and this is only

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six because this came out on July third, so six

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months into the year, the FBI has seen at least

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a three hundred percent increase in victim complaints referencing what's

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called ramp and dump stock fraud from twenty twenty four.

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So let's see what that ramp and dump stock fraud

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is let's see. The scheme known as ramp and dump

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stock manipulation targets US investors through online engagement, often via

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social media advertisements or messages promoting an investment club or

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of fellow investors, some of which may be bots or

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fake accounts. And so let's think about that. We've heard

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of the celebrity scams, right, you get contacted by a celebrity. Well,

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with artificial intelligence, now it's really easy for the scammers

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to clone a celebrity's voice and use that or even

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have you know, show.

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You in the forefront.

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The celebrities make it look like it's the celebrities picture

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or that you're talking to the celebrity, but it's really

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them in.

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The background, and that's that's their deep fake.

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you know, with this.

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So let's see where we're at here.

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These promotions typically direct victim to secure messaging apps where

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the group operates. So a lot of scammers like to

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go to WhatsApp because it is more secure than text

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messaging or Facebook messaging.

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All of that.

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To appear credible, the scammers may impersonate legitimate brokerage firms.

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We've talked about this impersonation scam.

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a lot of information out and scammers are really good

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at creating fake websites to impersonate companies. They secretly control

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a large volume of low price stock and coordinate efforts

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to inflate its price. That's the ramp up by inflating

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the price by encouraging investment club members to purchase shares

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over a period of several weeks or months. So that's

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their way to inflate the price in essence, to ramp

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up the price of the stock. And then once the

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price is artificially elevated, because if you remember.

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Butchering scam where scammer gets you to invest, and it's

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usually cryptocurrency investment, they create fake statements. Well they're doing

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this here too. They can create fake statements and show

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you or maybe on the website they've got some tracker,

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you know, fake tracker there that's monitoring the stocks and

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they create this fake inflated price to show you, and

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then the criminals will sell off their shares, which is

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dumping it at a profit, leaving the legitimate investors with

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significant losses as the stock value collapses.

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So let me go back here. I think I might have.

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Misstated something here I said they can show as like

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in the pig butchering scam, where they can make fake

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investment statements and show that you're making all this money

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in this account. It looks like on this one that

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based on getting the investment club members to purchase a

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bunch of shares over a period of several weeks or months,

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will will inflate the price as more.

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People buy the stock.

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and then the criminals are going to sell it off

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their shares at a profit before they even let you

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know what's going on, and then your year back with

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having a lower valued stock because the stock value has collapsed,

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and so now you have a loss. So just be

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very careful. If you're going to be joining an investment

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club and you don't know anything about it, do your research.

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Please do your research. Talk to you know, talk to

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your if you have a stockbroker, if you have an

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investment advisor, talk to them. See if they know about

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this investment club and what's going on. But please do

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your research and just type in the name of the

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investment club you know in your search engine and put scammer,

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fraud after it and see what comes up. You'd be

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amazed at what's out there. But please just do your

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research before you get involved in any sort of investment club.

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So let's see how to so unsolicited investment tips received

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via unsolicited text messages or social media advertisement linking it

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to an online investment club.

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Be very careful about that. There's also.

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Claims from well known financial advisors or wealth managers offering

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exclusive stock recommendations through these online clubs. Again, a lot

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of us want to believe what these well known financial

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advisors or wealth managers have to say. But still you

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need to do your research because with this artificial intelligence,

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it could be a scammer impersonating this well known financial

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advisor or wealth managers. So do your research. Pressure to

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act quickly, that's usually a huge, huge red flag, and

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they're going to say it's you know, the market moving

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and all of that stuff.

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You need to get in now.

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Again, do your research, take the time pause, do some.

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Research before you invest your money.

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All right, so that's that one. Let's go to the

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next one here.

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This one is July thirty. First, it is.

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Unsolicited packages containing QR codes used to initiate fraud schemes.

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We talked about this probably in June, I think on

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social media. We had heard a lot about it where

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it was the brushing scam, and that we might have

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even have put that out there even before June, maybe

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it was in the spring. There's this brushing scam out

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there where sellers on let's say Amazon, you know, Facebook, Marketplace,

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wherever they're selling online. It's usually Amazon because most most

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of the sellers are on Amazon, but and a lot

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of people have Amazon accounts, so it's a really popular

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platform to to sell your products on. But could be

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legitimate companies that are actually trying to inflate their reviews

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that they have on their products and they send you

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a bunch of Kachaski stuff that you didn't even order

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and and all that. But you can go if you

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just look up brushing scam and that's brushing as in

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like a hair brush, you'll find out more information on that.

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But let's see here. Then they the criminals then said

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we're going to take this scam, and we're going to

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change it a little bit. We're going to send a

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package to people with a bunch of or could be

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one thing, it could be a bunch of things that

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they didn't order, but they don't have a sender's name

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or address on there. And then you open the box.

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Most people are going to open the box. They're curious,

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they want to see what's in it. And there's a

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QR code and they want you to scan the QR

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code to see who sent you the package. And that

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QR code, once you scan it, then prompts you to

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provide personal and financial information, which then downloads malicious software

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onto your phone. And you know what happens when you

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get malicious software on your phone. The criminal can steal

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a bunch of information. They can monitor everything you're doing

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on your phone.

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Let's see.

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Yes, So tips to protect yourself on this one. Unsolicited packages.

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Just be very careful with those that you've received. It's

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always nice to get a package, especially when you didn't

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buy something. Right you open it up and it's something

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you never ordered and it was.

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Actually addressed to you.

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Because we all know sometimes we get packages delivered that

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were for our neighbor. It was delivered to our place

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by mistake, so you know, make sure it has your

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name and address on it. But if it's things you

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didn't order, you're not under any obligation to return those.

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You want to keep what'sever in the box, you know,

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just be careful with what it is, obviously right and

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or you can just throw it away, but do not

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scan any QR codes.

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I know you might be curious.

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As to who scent it, but just know that this

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is a scheme that criminals are using, and once you

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scan that QR code, they can take over your phone.

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So just be very very careful with that. Just rip

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up the paper, throw it away.

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And then let's see.

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Yeah, and then with QR codes also, QR codes can

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be be manipulated, and we've seen a lot of information

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out there from a lot of different people. It's usually

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when the QR codes are they could be on a

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piece of paper that's stapled to you know, a telephone

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poll or a sign or the you know, the window

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or something. It's out in the public where a bad

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actor could take a fake QR code and put it

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over top of the legitimate one, and to your naked eye,

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you don't realize that it's it's that the QR code

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has been has something over another QR code on top

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of it, and so you scan it and then it

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affects your phone in a bad.

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Way, in a malicious way.

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So even be careful with QR codes out in the

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public as well.

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Let's go too. We have one more. Let's see this one.

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The most recent one is from August thirteenth. Fictitious law

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firms targeting cryptocurrency scam victims combine multiple exploitation tactics while

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offering to recover funds. Now, we actually just posted this

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on social media yesterday, So there are bad actors out

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there that are posing as fake law firms and they

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are going to cryptocurrent and see scam victims and saying

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that they can recover their funds, but of course it

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comes with a fee.

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So there's a lot of exploitation tactics used in this one.

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And this happens to affect the older adults more so

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than other age populations. So they're exploiting the emotional state

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and the financial need to recover funds from a previous

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scam and giving the victims the safety and security by

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impersonating or falsely affiliating themselves with multiple government agencies, or

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as the title of this pa PSA says, they.

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Just make up a fake law.

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Firm because we all look to law firms, you know,

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the majority of law firms as persons of authority, so

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they So.

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This scam poses a lot of different risks.

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It could including the theft of personal data and funds

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from unsuspecting victims. And if the bad actors are impersonating

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a legitimate law firm, well there could be some reputational

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harm there to the actual the actual lawyers being impersonated,

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so there's that added determent there as well.

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But just know that law firms are not out there.

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Trying working to get your money back from a cryptocurrency scam.

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So if you remember, gosh was it last seems like

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it's been forever. Last week, we had Aaron Weston and

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she works at Operation Shamrock, and she is an expert

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in cryptocurrency and specifically the pig butchering scam, but she

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also knows about a lot of other scams as well.

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But she is an expert in cryptocurrency. So if you

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have lost money in a cryptocurrency scam, I highly suggest

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that you go to her website and it's Operation shamrock

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dot org and look at information there and maybe inquire

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with someone in their office. If you have been contacted

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from a law firm from someone saying they're from a

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government agency trying to help you get some or all

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of your funds that you lost to a cryptocurrency scam.

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To recover those, contact her her agency, Operation shamrock dot org.

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Like I said, she is a cryptocurrency expert and they

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will be able to talk you through this and let

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you know what is going on. So there's a lot

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of different well, there's a lot of different red flags

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here on this PSA.

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Let's just go through here.

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Impersonation of actual lawyers or legitimate law firms and the

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production of fictitious documents with the legitimate law firm insigney

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or a letterhead, So it's a it's a red flag indicator.

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But if they're if the bad actors are impersonating an

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actual law firm and they've made letterhead with the law

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firm's logo and this and that on it, that's going

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to be extremely difficult to know if you're actually getting

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if that letter is actually from the legitimate law firm,

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or if it's a scammer in person that law firm,

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then it says impersonation or affiliation as official authorized partners

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with multiple US and foreign government or regulatory entities.

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Just know there are no law firms which are.

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Officially authorized partners of US government agencies. So if you're

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getting information about recovering some of your lost funds and

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it's coming from a law firm saying that they are

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partnered with an authorizedment US government agency, just know that

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no law firm is an official authorized partner of a

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US government agencies, so you would know that's fake right.

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Off the bat.

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Sometimes the letters might refer to fictitious government or regulatory

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entities such as International Financial Trading Commission and it's i NTFTC.

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You can see that right in there.

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Double check verify whether such agency even exists. Scammers have

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been known to just make up We talked about charities,

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you know, when a natural disaster happens, sometimes they just

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make up a fake charity. Well, they can make up

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fake government or regulatory entities. Do your research and verify

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that that.

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Is an actual agency.

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If they're requesting payment to help you recover your funds

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and they want you to pay them in cryptocurrency or

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gift cards or prepaid gift cards. That's a big red

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flag there right there.

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Let's see.

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Sometimes they state that the victim was on a government

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affiliated list of scam victims and they can recover their

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money through legal channels. That's a big red flag there.

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The government is not going to publish an affiliated list

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of scam victims. They're just they're not making that public.

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They're referring you to a crypto recovery law firm.

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We've talked about that.

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There is no law firm that is an affiliated partner

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with the US government. They might state that your funds

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are in an account held at a foreign bank and

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they want you to register an account at that bank.

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You should not have to register an account at a

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foreign bank or a US bank to recover funds. If

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they're going to put you in a group chat like

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on WhatsApp or other messaging applications, supposedly for the secrecy

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and safety of the client, that's a big red flag too.

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Legitimate law firms, legitimate government agencies just don't use what's

479
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:14.640
happened and all of that to message with their clients.

480
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:18.279
If they don't have the ability to prove credentials or

481
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:21.960
a license. They don't want to appear on camera, they

482
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:26.880
don't want to do video meetings. But remember with this

483
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:33.559
that we talked earlier about artificial intelligence, and this is

484
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:36.359
with this was going to come into play with a

485
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:39.319
lot of different scams where the scammer would not come

486
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:44.519
on video to talk to you because they they're not

487
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:48.119
who they're impersonating themselves to be. But now with this

488
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:51.720
artificial intelligence in the deep fakes, they can make that

489
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:56.480
they can make it look like whoever it is they're impersonating,

490
00:33:56.640 --> 00:34:00.680
So it makes it even more difficult to determ if

491
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:08.239
it's a scam. And there's also they've seen where these

492
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:12.440
fake companies, the bad actors are requesting victims to send

493
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:17.679
payments to a third party for purposes of maintaining secrecy

494
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:22.960
and safety. That's a big red flag as well. So

495
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:28.079
in these circumstances, you need to use what's called a

496
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:34.760
zero trust. You need to assume that no one should

497
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:38.960
be trusted to help you get your recover your funds

498
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:42.400
from a scam until you have done your research and

499
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:47.840
you have verified that this is an actual company, and.

500
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:54.800
You have to think through the process.

501
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:58.480
Here when someone gets scammed and they report it, it's

502
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:02.920
going to go through an investigative process. The police, the FBI,

503
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.480
different types of law enforcement. They're going to go through

504
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:14.000
an investigative process with you. And if they can then

505
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:18.360
get to the people that are committing these crimes, it's

506
00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:21.000
going to get you know, they're going to have the prosecutor,

507
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:23.960
the district attorney, whoever it is that is going to

508
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:33.199
prosecute the case, and if they can recover assets, then

509
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:37.159
you're going to have the court.

510
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:40.159
System that's going to come out.

511
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:46.079
And say or And again I'm not one hundred percent

512
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:50.000
on how this exactly works, which is why you should

513
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:56.239
talk to someone at operationshamrock dot org. They have got

514
00:35:56.280 --> 00:36:00.119
all of this knowledge. But someone whether it's the fbilaw

515
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:04.440
enforcement or the prosecutor, the courts are then they know

516
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.519
that you are one of the victims because you've already

517
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.360
reported it. You've proven to them that you've lost the

518
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:12.760
money and you are one of the victims. And they've

519
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:16.079
gone through and they've been able to recover some assets.

520
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:22.039
It happens, sometimes not a lot, but sometimes it does happen. Well,

521
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.840
then it's filing the claim and then being able to

522
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:28.960
get some of your money back. So there's a process

523
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:32.360
for all of this and the channels that you have

524
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:37.039
to work through. So someone that's just getting a hold

525
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.719
of you, and I see this on our Facebook post

526
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:44.920
whenever we're talking about a specific scam, we get all

527
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:48.000
of these and it could be bots, it could be

528
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:52.239
actual people, but they're making comments on our post and

529
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:54.199
they're saying, if you've been a victim of a scam

530
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:58.000
and you've lost money, contact this person, and they most

531
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:00.719
of the time will give a WhatsApp phone number or

532
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.639
contact them because they helped me get my money back.

533
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:07.360
I try to go in and delete all of those,

534
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:11.199
but sometimes people see them before I can delete them.

535
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:15.599
Their bogus. Please just ignore those.

536
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:22.039
Don't call those WhatsApp numbers, don't contact those people, because

537
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.519
they're going to be very good at convincing you that

538
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:27.920
they can help you get your money back. Just know

539
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:30.920
that there's a process that has to come into play

540
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:36.159
before actual assets. If there are any assets that can

541
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:39.599
be recovered to where then if you were one of

542
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:42.519
the victims, you might be able to get a portion

543
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:47.920
of your money back. That's all I have for you

544
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:52.679
guys today. Next week we're going to have doctor Martina

545
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:53.239
Dove on.

546
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:58.199
We're going to talk more on let me see if

547
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:06.840
I can stop sharing here, all right.

548
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:09.519
We're gonna have doctor Martina Dove on again. She's gonna

549
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:14.960
go over some updates specifically related to some romance scams,

550
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:19.039
and in the near future we are going to have

551
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:23.079
Aaron West and doctor Martina Dove on and it'll be

552
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:27.639
the three of us talking more about the psychology and

553
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:32.639
different scams and how scammers will exploit your emotions and

554
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:37.119
your good nature to get you to engage with them

555
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:41.199
and hand over personal information or money. So don't forget

556
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:45.360
Go to our website Rosadvocacy dot org. You'll find all

557
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:48.000
of our social media links at the top of the page.

558
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:51.519
You're going to want to subscribe to this podcast so

559
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:54.320
you don't miss an episode. You can find all of

560
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:57.079
our episodes on our YouTube channel. That link is at

561
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:01.800
the top of our home page at Roseadvocacy dot org.

562
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:04.760
Scroll down to the bottom and you will find you

563
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:08.960
can sign up for our newsletters. Our emailed newsletter and

564
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:13.079
we send one out via mail as well. You can

565
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:16.599
sign up for one or both of those. I don't

566
00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:18.920
want to give you guys a little bit of an

567
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:21.920
analogy that I actually just thought of last week.

568
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:23.760
We get a lot of.

569
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:29.119
People, I mean, really, who wants to talk about scams?

570
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:32.400
Is not a fun topic to talk about with a

571
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:36.519
lot of people. It's negative, you end up losing money,

572
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:40.039
and it's emotional, and it just has a lot of

573
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:45.199
detrimental effects. But we're at a point that we have

574
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:49.159
to talk about this, and I use the analogy of

575
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.960
if you remember when you were first learning how to drive,

576
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:58.239
you weren't experienced. You knew how to drive, You've taken classes,

577
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:01.199
you took the test, you passed the test. You've been driving,

578
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:04.679
maybe even for a couple of years, but you weren't experienced.

579
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:07.760
And you're going down the road and you know you're

580
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:11.000
you know, maybe you know you're speeding, maybe you don't

581
00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:12.920
know your speeding. But all of a sudden, you see

582
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:15.599
a policeman, whether they're parked on the side, they're come

583
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:21.320
in the other direction. You automatically put on the brakes.

584
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:24.440
It's a panic and a knee jerk panic reaction. You

585
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:28.639
put on the brake. Well, as you get more experienced driving,

586
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:33.679
this happens. You see the policeman on the side, you

587
00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:36.679
see the policeman coming, you know, on the other side

588
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:38.679
of the road, or you all of a sudden see him,

589
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:43.719
you know, wherever you're more apt to just take your

590
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:47.719
foot off the gas and let your engine slow down

591
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:51.840
a little bit. Like that, you're pausing and you're just

592
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.199
letting your foot off the gas a little bit, and

593
00:40:55.280 --> 00:41:00.280
that's your pause. Because you're experienced, you've been dry a

594
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:05.000
lot number of years, it becomes a habit. You just

595
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:08.079
pause and take your foot off the accelerator.

596
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:09.599
A little bit. Well, this is what we want you

597
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:10.880
to do with scams.

598
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.039
And it's not that we want to have all this

599
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:18.199
negative information and have you looking over your shoulder all

600
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:20.440
the time, but we want to help you develop that

601
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:21.639
healthy skepticism.

602
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:23.519
So when you.

603
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:28.320
Are contacted, you're taking that pause, you're taking your foot

604
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:33.639
off of that accelerator, and you're pausing to be able

605
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:37.639
to do your research and use a clear state of mind,

606
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:41.199
a rational state of mind, to determine whether this is

607
00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:45.360
a scam or not. So having that information, whether you

608
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:48.719
get it via social media, you get it via the newsletters,

609
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.760
you're getting it on this weekly radio show, or a

610
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:57.039
combination of some or all of them, it's there to

611
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.280
help this healthy skepticism become a abbit.

612
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:03.519
So when you're contacted.

613
00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:06.039
Your foot comes off the accelerator a little bit, and

614
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:09.960
you take a pause and you research what is going

615
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:13.239
on with a rational state of mind and not in

616
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:17.559
a panic mode. So with that, thank you for joining me,

617
00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:20.079
and I look forward to seeing you next week.

618
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:24.559
Well that's all the knowledge for this episode. June in

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00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:28.880
every Tuesday at eight am Pacific time on KFOURHD Radio

620
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:33.719
at KFOURHD dot com as Joyce explores a variety of knowledge.

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00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:37.360
So you have the power to make scam protection your

622
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:41.119
healthy habit and until then, feel free to reach out

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00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:43.719
to Joyce and let's talk about scams.