Oct. 7, 2025

Scam Targeting Veterans, Evil Twin Wi-Fi attack, and More!

Scam Targeting Veterans, Evil Twin Wi-Fi attack, and More!

Surprise, surprise there are some new scams going around. Listen in as we discuss a scam targeting veterans, an evil twin Wi-Fi attack, and more!

Learn about these scams and know how to protect yourselves.

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Disclaimer: The information contained in this podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for individual professional / legal advice. The podcast information was carefully compiled from vetted sources and references; however, R.O.S.E. Resources / Outreach to Safeguard the Elderly cannot guarantee that you will not fall victim to a scam.

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This program is designed to provide general information with regards

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for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for

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individual professional legal advice. The podcast information was carefully compiled

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from vetted sources and references. However, Rose Resources outreach to

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safeguard the elderly cannot guarantee that you will not fall

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victim to a scam. Let's talk about scams. It's the

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must listen show for anyone who wants to protect themselves

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and their loved ones from scams. Every Tuesday at m

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Pacific time on K four HD Radio, Joyce Petrowski, founder

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of Rose, and her guests will provide valuable insights and

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practical tips on how to recognize and protect yourself from scams.

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And now here is your host, Joyce Petrowski.

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Hi, everyone, welcome back. Joyce Petrowski, President and founder of

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Rose Resources Outreach to safeguard the elderly. You can find

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more information on our website at Roseadvocacy dot org. You'll

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find our social media channels. Scroll down to the bottom

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of the homepage you will see where you can sign

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up for our email and or mailed newsletter. The mailed

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newsletter comes out at the beginning of the month. The

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comprehensive email newsletter comes out at the beginning of the month.

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But we also send out a weekly Tuesday Tip on

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Tuesday mornings at nine point fifteen am. This is a

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great way to help keep scam prevention at the top

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of your mind, not to scare you, but to develop

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your healthy skepticism. So when you get that contact, you

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think scam and you are more apt to pause, take

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a break, check things out, verify the situation, verify what's

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going on, and then help prevent yourself from falling victim

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to a scam. So again, you can find those signups

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at the bottom of the home page on Rosadvocacy dot org.

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Social media channels are there as well, and this seems

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like a reoccurring theme every radio show. Our Facebook is

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still down between myself and one other person. We are

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trying to get Facebook to work with us. They're saying

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that I should be able to find the page and

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manage it, but I can't find it. So if you

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guys out there, if you're able to find it somewhere,

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could you let me know because I'm trying everything on

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Facebook and I can't find Rose's business page. So hopefully

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soon we'll be able to work through this with Facebook.

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Today's going to be a shorter show. I'm going to

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go over some updates, some new scams that we found

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out about, and then there's a new law that went

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into effect a little over a week ago regarding cryptocurrency

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in those cryptocurrency ATMs. So the first thing is jeep

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In Chrysler's parent company, Stillantis has confirmed that they have

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been involved in a data breach. So it looks to

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be one of their third party use third party companies

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they use was hacked into. But they are confirming that

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contact information has was breached through them. Yep, they clarified

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that only contact information was taken because that third party

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platform does not host any financial or deeply sensitive personal data.

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So that's a great thing. But here's some things you

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can do. If you think you might be affected through

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Jeeper Chrysler data breach, you can hire a company to

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clean up your personal information from the web. Just keep

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in mind it is a paid subscription. There's a lot

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of companies out there that do it, so just search

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on the internet the best companies to take your information

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offline in twenty twenty five and see what comes up

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and see which one works best for your situation. Just

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also keep in mind that once you take everything off,

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it's not a one and done. Your information does end

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up back out there at some point, so it's probably

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best to keep that subscription going with them so they

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will continually monitor the web for your information. When they

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see it, they will take it off the internet. And

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just also be careful. You could end up getting more

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phishing emails or the text messages things like that. So

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you're going to want to make sure you have a

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strong antivirus and anti malware on all of your devices,

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including your phone, because that is a mobile computer that's

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going to help you be able to detect malicious sites

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and prevent you from going there. You might want to

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consider using a password manager, because the best security with

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passwords is to have a strong pass, different password for

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every single account you have, and a strong password has

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to be made up of lowercase and uppercase letters, numbers,

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and symbols, And unfortunately, there is not a standard set

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of symbols that all companies will allow. Every company is

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different with what symbols they'll allow. Make sure you have

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two factor authentication or multi factor authentication enabled on all

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of your financial accounts and any other accounts that will

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allow it. A lot of companies now nowadays have that

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as an added layer of security. Sometimes they don't prompt

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you to set it up when you set your account up.

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and turn it on. You probably will have options whether

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you want to use it. Get your code via text

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or email. That is less secure than using an authenticator app.

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Microsoft has an authenticator app, and so does Google. And

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the reason is is because when you use those authenticator apps,

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those codes only last for like thirty seconds. When you're

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getting them texted or emailed, they could last like five

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minutes or seven or eight minutes, So they're out there

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longer for someone. Gives someone more time to try to

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get those codes from you. But just keep in mind

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if you are using those authenticator apps, and you decide

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to upgrade your phone or get a new mobile phone,

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make sure whoever is transferring that data that those authenticator

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apps and all of the data in the authenticator apps

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transfer over. You might want to consider looking into getting

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an identity theft subscription if you're concerned about identity theft,

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maybe you've been a victim of identity theft in the past.

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There's a lot of companies out there that offer this.

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It's a paid subscription basis, so again you're going to

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have to look up on the web the best identity

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theft protection packages for twenty twenty five. You'll get these

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tech companies that constantly monitor these companies and evaluate them,

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and they'll give you the information on their top picks.

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And the nice thing about those identity theft protections descriptions

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is they usually will have a certain amount of money

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available to you if you are a victim of identity

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theft that you can use to pay what you know, fees,

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whatever it is you need to get your identity back.

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any unusual activity. Consider freezing your credit as well, if

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you've not already done so especially if you do not

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want to freeze your credit, which is a personal choice,

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then make sure you monitor your credit report on a

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regular basis. So that's it for that data breach. There's

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a I was looking at the cyber guy website on

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some recent scams that they talked about, and there's one

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that's a bank pop up scam. It's titled could bank

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pop up scam could empty your account in seconds. So

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this gentleman had wrote in that he had had his

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financial account open, he was doing transactions. In the middle

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of a transaction, up pops a box in the middle

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of the full page showing the company's logo. It looked real,

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he said. The first time he fell for it, it

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asked for his email address to confirm, then his phone number,

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and then he saw for about four or five seconds

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of the screen named credit Donkey. At that point he

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realized it was a scam, and he immediately closed down

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his computer and called the number on the back of

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his financial card to report it. So his quick thinking

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likely saved him from a lot of damage. So this

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is called an injection scam, and this is how they

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trick you. It hijacks your browser and overlays a fake

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log in or verification screen because it appears while you're

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already logged in to your financial account, the fake page

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looks real and authentic. In this gentleman's case, the appearance

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of credit donkey flashing on the screen was a red flag,

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but that doesn't always happen. Scammers will sometimes abuse legitimate

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looking redirects to convince victims they're dealing with their bank.

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The real aim is to capture your log in credentials

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and to trick you into handing over your two factor

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authentication code. So one thing to note is that the

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web injections cannot occur on their own. For this type

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of scam to appear, there's almost always already malicious software

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running on your computer or browser, so a virus that's

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just quietly monitoring traffic, and then it sees when you

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are logged into your bank account. So basically that means

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your device is already compromised. Again, as I said before

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with breach, one of the one of the protection tools

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is having a very good robust antivirus anti malware software

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on all of your devices, and that includes your mobile phone.

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Your cell phone, we treat it as a phone, but

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we have to understand it as a mobile computer. It's

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hooked up to the internet. We do a lot of

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things on our mobile phone. Some people do a lot

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of banking on their phone. There's probably credit cards saved,

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you know. For instance, if you have an iPhone, you

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might have Apple Pay on there and you have a

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credit card associated. You might do your Amazon orders on

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your phone, and there's a credit card in your Amazon account,

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your cell phone as well. You're going to want to

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monitor your accounts if you think you've been if your

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financial account may have been exposed, you're going to want

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to change your past word to that account immediately. And

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if by some chance you have reused that password. Remember

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you're not supposed to reuse passwords, but if by some

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chance you have reused that password that's been compromised, you

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need to go to every account you've reused it, and

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you need to update those passwords too. And you're going

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to want to get a hold of your bank right

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away so they know that there's a possible fraud on

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your account and they can put the necessary measures in

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place to help protect you. We said before, you might

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want to consider Using a password manager helps with all

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those storing all your logins so you don't have to

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remember or write down all of your passwords. You only

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have to remember the password to your password vault, because

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if you lose that, not even the company you are

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subscribed to for that password manager has access to the

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password for your vault, so you're going to want to

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keep that in the safe place. We talked about removing

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your data from different sites. It's a paid subscription. Let's

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see what else they say here. Enable multi factor authentification.

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That is a reoccurring protection theme and a lot of

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different a lot of different scams. Freeze your credit. If

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you haven't frozen your credit, you might want to seriously

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consider freezing your credit at this point. If you still

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don't want to do it again, it's a personal choice.

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You are going to want to monitor your credit reports

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on a regular basis, and we talked about identity theft

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monitoring as well. Some other things you want to consider

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is always make sure you're logging into your bank's verified

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website before you do any personal banking. And keep your

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browser and your operating system so if you use Google,

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keep it updated, keep on your if you're doing it

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on your cell phone, your laptop, your computer. Whenever there's

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updates excuse me to the operating system, make sure you

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you install those updates. And never enter any personal details

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on pop up screens, no matter how real it looks.

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Always make sure you are on your bank's legitimate website,

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not going through pop up screens. So that's it with

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that one. Let's see this one we just had in

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our newsletter that went out on Saturday, our emailed newsletter.

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So there are This is about fake Wi Fi networks

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and this is specifically how it can steal your data

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while you're traveling. Now, this is called an evil twin

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Wi Fi attack, So how does that happen? So a scammer,

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a bad actor is going to mimic the airlines Wi Fi,

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whatever airline you're flying, They're going to mimic that Wi

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Fi with a hotspot, an evil twin hotspot. So when

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you go on to get onto the airline's Wi Fi network,

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you're going to see multiple networks with the same name,

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but your phone or your laptop often connects to the

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one with the stronger signal and that, unfortunately is usually

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the attackers. So having the anti malware, anti virus on

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your phone, your laptop, all your devices. That's going to

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help you recognize if you do try to connect to

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the evil twin WiFi. So basically once if you do connect,

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you're redirected to a fake login or landing page and

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then it gets the It gets your email address, passwords,

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social media credentials, whatever you're doing while you're on the

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airline's Wi Fi, and that can lead to identity theft.

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It can lead to if you happen to be doing

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your banking, which I would highly suggest you don't do

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any financial transactions while you are using public Wi Fi

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like the airline's Wi Fi, so they can do this

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while you're in flight. So there was there was a

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case in Australia where this happened. So the attacker carried

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a portable hotspot on board the flight and named it

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to match the airline's official Wi Fi network, So passengers

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seeing the fake network with a stronger signal strength connected

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automatically and then they were taken to a counterfeit login

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page asking for personal details and so on a flight,

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the consequences could be amplified. Passengers either give in or

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share data or lose access to entertainment for hours, and

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so the success rate for attackers can be quite high.

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with this is make sure you have a virtual private network.

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the Internet, making it harder for attackers to intercept your data.

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connect to the attackers fake or fake Wi Fi their

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wrong hotspot. If you have a VPN, whatever data you're

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entering in is going to go through an encrypted tunnel

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between your device and the Internet. So it doesn't mean

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that the attackers can't get your information. It just makes

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it a lot harder for them to try to get it.

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not using a VPN, well then it's going to be

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easier and they're just going to go and work on

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their data. So we talked about using strong antivirus and

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antimoware two factor authentication again multi factor authentication. Make sure

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you have it on any account that allows it, especially financials.

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remembers certain things, and if you do that while you're

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in the airport or as soon as you get on

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the plane, it might come up and show and you're

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going to want to turn off those Wi fis that

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it remembers. You're going to want to disconnect it whatever

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it says, because then it won't automatically try to connect

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to that one if maybe on the previous flight you

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were connected to one of the attackers of Wi fis.

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even if you have a VPN, even if you have

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the strong antivirus anti maour, seriously consider limiting what you

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are going to do while you are on the plane

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or sitting in the airport. Keep your devices updated, and

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make sure you use airplane mode with Wi Fi only.

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Technically the airlines always tell you you need to switch

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into into airplane mode, but then you could do Wi

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Fi only with that, And then watch for phishing pop

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ups and avoid suspicious links, because if the attacker is

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able to get in and get your information, they are

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going to inundate you with phishing emails, with text messages

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wanting you to click on links, respond to them all

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in a in an attempt to get more information or

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to get you to give money to them, and then

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make sure you don't just that you don't just leave

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that Wi Fi logged on even if you're not using it.

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Go in and log off of it when you are done.

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All right, that is it for that. Let's see what's

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next here. There was an article in the Green Valley

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News and it came out on October fourth, and our

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community outreach specialist Brian Watson was quoted in this article.

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So it's called more victims fall victim to crypto scams,

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but there's hope. So there was a there was a

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resident of down in Tucson that lost four hundred and

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fifty thousand dollars in a cryptocurrency scam, and then a

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week later, two Green Valley residents all fell also fell

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victim to crypto scams. So one person reported that they

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received a text from her banks saying there were issues

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with her account she needed to transfer the funds be

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a bitcoin to fix them. She lost twenty six thousand dollars.

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She was seventy seven. She's seventy seven years old. On

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that same day, another Green Valley resident who was seventy five,

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reported that they'd transferred ten thousand into bitcoin to a

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man claiming to be an American soldier who needed the

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money to get back to the US. She also sent

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him two thousand and Apple gift cards. So here's some

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things that Brian said in this article and both in

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all of these victims that the articles talking about. They

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went to a cryptocurrency ATM machine. You can find them

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at gas stations. I've heard there in shopping malls. In

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all honesty, I'm not exactly sure why they came out,

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because if you're a legitimate investor in cryptocurrency, you have

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your own portal and you can invest in it from

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the comforts of your own home. You don't need to

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go to a cryptocurrency ATM machine. So if anybody knows

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of any legitimate reason why somebody would go legitimately to

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put money into a cryptocurrency ATM machine to invest or

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to do something else, let me know. But I can

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only think that it's used to victimize people because they

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stand there with thousands of dollars in cash putting it

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into this machine. So, as Brian said, the gift cards

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were extremely popular with con artists, for a long time,

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but a lot of these larger companies target Walmart, Home Depot, Amazon.

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They all put signs up to raise awareness of scams.

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Criminals like to send people to methods of payment they're

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not familiar with. People know cash, and they know checks,

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and they know debit cards and credit cards. So criminals

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like to use wire transfers, gift cards. They still will

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use gift cards because it's very easy. They just need

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the numbers on the back, they don't need the actual card.

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And they use crypto and we have seen such an

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uptick in cryptocurrens scam victims who have put money into

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cryptocurrency ATMs. And plus you don't have to deal with anybody.

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The scammers on the phone, they tell you exactly how

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to use it. You put the money in. Here's another

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thing that Brian said regarding these The thing that jumped

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out at him was these are incredibly intelligent people who

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handled their own finances and lived on their own. These

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were not people that were dependent on others or living

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in like an assisted living or a memory care. They

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had all of their faculties. They just got fooled and

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it could happen to all of us and we need

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to keep this in the back of our minds. It

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can happen to any of us. Scams have nothing to

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do with intelligen So if you are one of those

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people that, whether you think it to yourself or you

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say it out loud, when somebody says talks about scams,

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ll that'll never happen to me, you are now more

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susceptible because you are letting your guard down with the

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that'll never happen to me, or you know, that'll never

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happen to my loved ones. Then you're going to let

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your guard down and you're not going to talk to

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your loved ones about scams. You're not going to check

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in on them, you know, and make sure everything's okay.

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They haven't been talking to someone that they've never meant,

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you know, asking them about their you know, weird emails

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they're getting or text messages or things like that, or

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showing them some examples that you may have gotten and

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showing them how they can figure out if it's the

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red flags to look for, you know, to tell if

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it's a scam. So cryptocurrency is digital money that's completely unregulated.

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It allows people to make payments directly to each other

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through an online system, but it doesn't require a bank

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or financial institution to verify transactions. There's a lot of

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different cryptocurrency platforms. So and Brian, our community outreach specialist,

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also teaches a class at University of Arizona in the

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spring semester, and he had a Homeland Security agent speak

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to his class. And this is what that Homeland Security

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agent said. If a police officer was looking for a case,

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they could just park in front of a crypto ATM

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at a liquor store, gas station and just pull license

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plates because of the vast majority of the people that

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use the crypto ATM are either going to be people

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depositing drug money, illegal money, or victims depositing their hard

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earned savings. Let's see here. So there is a new

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law that went into effect in I'm going to read

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about that from the Arizona Corporation Commissions website. It's called

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the Crypto ATM Fraud Laws Protect Arizona Seniors. That's the article.

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So the name of the bill that was passed and

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I was looking for the number of the bill and

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I don't see it listed here, but it's called the

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Cryptocurrency KIOSK License Fraud prevention law establishes the following mandates.

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So there are going to be transaction limits, so there's

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daily limits have been set at two thousand dollars for

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new customers and ten five hundred dollars for existing customers.

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Not sure why there's that big of a difference, but

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that's what the new bill has. In warning messages on screen,

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warnings must be displayed and customers must must acknowledge them

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before completing a transaction. Well, in my opinion, that's fine,

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but when you've got somebody, you've got a victim in

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an emotional state, especially if they're scared, and the scammers

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on the other end of the line, they're just going

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to they're going to do what they need to do

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to get through the situation. So they think that then

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their loved one is going to be safe or their

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money's going to be safe, and they're just going to

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most likely, they'll most likely just click on that warning

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to say they acknowledge it. All transactions now require a

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receipt showing the digital wallet address where the funds were sent.

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That's a great tool because then somebody's been scammed and

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they've used that machine, they have the receipt. It has

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the digital wallet's address, and they go and make a

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report at law enforcement. Law enforcement now has that digital

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address where the funds were sent, the digital wallets address,

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And there is also a clause in there about refunds,

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so it says these cryptocurrency ATM operators must issue full

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refunds to new customers who were defrauded, provided the victim

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reports the fraud to law enforcement or the Attorney General

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and the ATM operator within thirty days. So this one's

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going to be interesting because at the end of the

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Green Valley article I was talking to you about just briefly,

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there was a manager at a vape shop said he

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thinks those who use the crypto Kiosk and his shop

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don't even read the warning placed on the machine by

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the Sheriff's Offers several months ago, and he is unaware

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of the new law, but said he would be speaking

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with the shop's owner to see about removing the machine.

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If these machine operator owners are now going to have

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to refund the money to the scam victim, as long

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as they're a new customer, they can that they had

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filed a report on the fraud to either law enforcement

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or the Attorney General and the ATM operator within thirty

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days that this store that has this cryptocurrency ATM is

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now going to have to refund the money as long

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as all of these other conditions. All of these conditions

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are meant so that ATM operator could be out a

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couple thousand dollars, they could be out ten thousand dollars.

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So I'm thinking that, and again, this is pretty new.

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I want to say. Let me go back to this

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Green Valley article. I believe it had it. Oh yeah,

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it went into effects September twenty sixth, so just like

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ten days ago, it went into effects. So as these

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owner operators of these machines learn about this new law

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and all the ramifications, I have a feeling a lot

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of them are going to get rid of these cryptocurrency

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ATM machines, which in my opinion is great because that's

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just cuts off one way that scammers can get their money.

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So I think it's awesome if they can get rid

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of this. Again, like I said in the beginning, if

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you know of a valid reason why we need to

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have these cryptocurrency ATM machines, comment if you're looking, if

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you're watching this in YouTube, or send me an email

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and let me know because my thought process, my opinion

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is it's really used for scam victims to put their

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hard earned cash in and then they lose it immediately.

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The last thing we're going to talk about today is,

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and I'm going to share my screen, there is a

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scam that we found out about that is targeting veterans.

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And here is the scam. Now this I believe it

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was the state of Michigan. I believe that some veterans

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started receiving these postcards. I'm sure veterans all throughout the

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United States have been receiving this postcard. It's just we

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saw the article in a paper publication and I believe

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it was out of Michigan. But they're saying it's the

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Veteran give Back Program of twenty twenty five, So you

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may be eligible for up to one hundred and seventy

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dollars per month back on the Part B Veteran give

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Back Program. That's up to two thousand and eighty eight

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dollars per year back to your SOEF security check. Every month,

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you'll get a credit to your sell security check. Extra

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benefits include dental vision and hearing, all at no cost.

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Outside of the VA benefits, are administered through Medicare Parts C.

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Spouses of veterans may qualify if they have Trycare for

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Life or champ VA. It is preferred to call within

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five days to help us manage our call volume, and

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again call today regarding this notification. They have the toll

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free number, the hours that they're open Eastern Standard time.

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You know, this is very enticing for somebody, especially you know,

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most people would be very entire about this because they'd

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be like, oh, an extra couple thousand dollars a year,

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who couldn't use that? You know, that's awesome, And without thinking,

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they just might call the phone number. And then now

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it's you know, going to be harder to recognize the

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scam and you know, uh, get out or stop the

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stop the contact, because they're going to have your phone

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number and they're going to continue to call you to

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get you to apply for this extra money which is

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not really there. So just this is the postcard and

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this is something that actually people were receiving in the mail. So,

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as we said before, with the you know, the event

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in the evolution of all this online stuff, a lot

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of the scammers went to be want to do everything

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online and you didn't really see stuff coming in the mail. Well,

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doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It does happen, and you

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have to be careful with the mail as well. So

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that's the postcard again. I'm sure veterans all over the

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United States are receiving this. If a veteran has any questions,

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concerns whatever about their Veterans' benefits, whether it relates to

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their Social Security check or not, call the VA. Or

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if you have someone that helps you with your Veterans'

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benefits that you trust, call that person and talk to

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them about it before you do anything, because if they're

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sending this out, they're probably going to change it and

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send some other scammelered out, or they'll be doing stuff online.

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So just remember to go to your trusted person who

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you work with on your veterans benefit or call the VA,

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or go to the VA's website if you have an

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account on there where you can see your veteran benefits.

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Always check things out with a verified person, the verified

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phone number, the verified website. All Right, that is all

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I have for today. Don't forget. You're gonna want to

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in about thirty five forty minutes here. Thanks for joining

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me today and as always, if you have any questions,

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send me an email if you have also if you

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have been if you have had a scam experience, whether

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or not you've fallen victim to the scam, and you

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would like to share that with me and the viewers

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on the radio show. We are looking for people that

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would like to share their scam experience, so reach out

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to me. You can find all the contact information on

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the website, but it's info at Rosadvocacy dot org and

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let me know we'd love to have you on the show.

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All right, let's see next week is the fourteenth. Brian

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is going to be on next week and you're not

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going to want to miss his show as he talks

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about urgency. So see, you'll see Brian next week and

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I'll be back on the twenty first. Until then, thank you,

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thank you.

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Well that's all the knowledge for this episode. Tune in

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every Tuesday at eight am Pacific time on KFOURHD Radio

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at KFOURHD dot com as Joyce explores a variety of knowledge.

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So you have the power to make scam protection your

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healthy habit, and until then, feel free to reach out

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