How to gather information using Artificial Intelligence (AI)

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1:19 Hi, everyone, welcome back. I'm Joyce Petrowski, founder and board president of Rose Resources Outreach to safeguard the elderly. You can find more information on our website at Roseadvocacy dot org. All of our social media links are listed at the top. You can go down in to the bottom of the homepage and find how to sign up for our emailed newsletter and also our mailed newsletter. We send the mailed newsletter out at the beginning of every month. The one for April should be going out in the next couple days, and the emailed one goes out or in the usually in this now it's been the second week of the month, but I'm going to try and get it back to be the beginning of the month here soon. But every Tuesday morning at nine point fifteen Arizona time, you're going to get a Tuesday Tip. And you might start getting them and say, well, I already know these, But what it's doing just as important as the information in the Tuesday tip. What it's doing is is it helping make your scam prevention a habit, in your healthy skepticism a habit.

2:28 So it's just a refresher, so it helps you the next time you are contacted be able to not panic, not get into an emotional state, but just stop and think, Okay, this could be a scam. What do I need to do to determine if it is a scam or it's legitimate. You can also go over to the right hand side at the top under Schedule your Presentation. You can learn more about all the different presentations we have available and fill out a form to send it to us with the information on scheduling your presentation. So today we were originally going to talk about how to search for different types of softwares using AI, and our guest David, had an emergency so he couldn't make it, so we did a little pivot for today, and I'm going to talk about some updates to that we've had on social media the last probably a couple weeks, and then also some FBI public service announcements that they've had out this month on some different scams. So let me share my screen here, all right, So I'm going to go to Facebook first, And first of all, when you get on our Facebook, this is what it looks like, and you can see up here in the search for our Facebook, dot com, slash rows, dot resources, dot outreach. That's the page, and

4:01 then you can come down here and see some different posts. We have a golf tournament coming up, so we're thinking all of our sponsors. But here's one that we just put out yesterday. It's called push bombing. And so I'm sure everybody's heard of multi factor authentication or two factor authentication, but this is where it's also called multi factor authentification fatigue. Where let's say you get your codes texted to you. You just keep getting these codes over and over and over again, and it starts causing a lot of frustration to where you just automatically go okay, and you then use it.

4:46 So it'll stop texting you. But it's really a scammer behind it, knowing that this is going to frustrate you and get you to then give the multi factor code. They get your how does it work? They get your user name and password through different fishing techniques, breaches or hacks at companies, or maybe if you've reused a password and they figured that password out on another account. We've talked about this a lot. They've got a software where they're going to put that log in credentials in and it's just automatically going to scan through thousands of different accounts until it hits and wherever you've reused that password, it's going to hit and now they can have they can are closer to having access because if you have multi factor authentication set up, then authentication setup, then you're going to have to give them the code in order for them to be able to get in. And that's where this MFA fatigue comes in.

5:46 They repeatedly send you the MFA log in requests and then the goal is to wear you down until you approve the log in, and that sometimes it comes through where it's just you know, you're trying to log in as this shoe you see and you just quickly say yes to get rid of it, because if you say no, then you're going to get another one that comes back, and it just keeps coming. So how to protect yourself, So never approve an unexpected multi factor request and always use strong, unique passwords for every account. The other thing I'm going to say, there is a lot of accounts now give you the option of setting up a pass key, which is biometric information. And we talked about this just a couple of weeks ago. It's a facial scam, a fingerprint, or it's a pin number. Now, that pin number is different than a multi factor code because you are telling whichever company you're setting up that pass key with. You're telling that company, this is your pin number. So it's waiting, just like it's waiting for you to scan your face to look for those pinpoints or to scan your fingerprint to look for those pinpoints on your fingerprint, it's waiting for you to put that specific code in as a match to allow you in. So it's an option for you.

7:06 But if you are still using passwords, I know a lot of us like to reuse passwords, But before you want to reuse a password, just please ask yourself this question. If I reuse this password on this account and it's already on this other account, if scammers were to access it on one of the accounts, it now affects this account, what damage could be done? And then ask yourself, after you've figured what damage could be done? Am I do you want to take that risk? You can consider the app based authenticators over the text notifications.

7:47 The app based authenticators are like Google Authenticator and Microsoft or no, what is it? Yeah? Microsoft Authenticator, and those are apps that you download into your into your phone. And I was just going to look mine up really quick. Mine is just just. Called the authenticator. If you go to if you go to your app store, you could get on and just look up the authenticator. But those are more secure than the text based notifications because the text based ones, those codes last for like five minutes, maybe ten minutes, but these authenticator apps, those codes only last for with thirty seconds, and you can actually see the code when you get in there, and there's a like a time clock counting down, so you can see, well, it's already on five seconds. I'm going to wait until it gets to zero and gives me a new code to give me time to.

8:56 Put it in and get it accepted. And another thing it says here is to also stay alert for messages claiming to be it support. Those go around all the time. They just change their techniques. They're basically trying to have you give them access to your devices, and that can create so much damage if you consider what you have on your device. So that's called push bombing or multi factor authentication fatigue, which is very very frustrating. Here's another one. We put this out late last week. So the genealogy sites, so a lot of people are using them twenty three and meters I believe was part of a breach not too long ago, maybe sometime in the last year. But there's a lot of other genealogy and DNA platforms as well. But just think about what you're sharing when you set up the page. There your full name, including your maiden names, your birth dates, the locations the current location where you live, plus any past locations, your family relationships, a lot of history, and you might, you know, think, well, this feels harmless because you're trying to you know, figure out, you know, who your ancestry and stuff. And that's a great thing to do, right especially there's people that have been adopted and they didn't

10:31 know who their birth parents were, or they have a whole other family out there and they want to be able to search to find that family. So it has a lot of really great benefits to it. You just have to understand that the information that you're giving, and then also if there was a breach into that system, the information that now scammers are going to have access to, which means you need to be even more diligent at protecting yourself and watching out for those phishing attempts or those schmishing attempts or vishing with voicemails and and all of that. But so scammers use that data they can answer security questions to access accounts. And this is a lot of banks, a lot of financial accounts. Have you set up security questions? And if you think about what a lot of them. What's your mother's maiden name, you know, what's the name of your your first pet, what's the name of your what's your father's middle name, what's the name of your oldest child, you know, what's the name of your favorite aunt. Right, So there's a lot of that genealogy information that can answer those questions. So you know, something to think about with those security questions is do you ask yourself, do I really have to give the truth out?

11:59 If I love on these. Questions, it's my answer that I put down, whether I'm lying or I'm truthful, this is the answer I want to give. The only thing is if you're going to lie, then you need to record at someplace because you're not going to You're most likely not going to remember what you put in that was a lie, right, So just record it someplace so if you ever have to answer those questions, you have them available. If you use a password manager, you can get into that account in your vault, and they usually have a place for notes, and that's where I stick mine is down in the notes, so I could always look it up there. They can scammers can impersonate relatives, especially in emergency scams. Now they have their names, they know how they're related to you. They can also target multiple family members at once. You know, if there's a bunch of family members in this ancestry tool, then now they know how everybody's connected, and they can scour the Internet for information to build profiles on each person and make more targeted attacks towards somebody. So again we're not saying don't use the ancestry pages, but understanding how the information can be used against you. So if you decide to use these sites, that you make sure you have it locked down, that you have other areas of your life locked down, and just be more aware

13:31 that you could have more targeted scam attempts, especially using one of your family member's names. So you keep your family trees private. I'm sure it's in there in the settings. You can set it up that only you can access it. Avoid sharing full birth dates and maiden names. You know, A lot of that depends on, especially with the maiden names, is to how far you want to go through this ancestry, limit details about living relatives, and just be mindful of what you upload and where you upload it. So again, genealogy sites can be really helpful in a lot of different ways, but just you know, make sure you understand the information that you're giving, and yes, it's going to affect you positively because you can find a lot of long lost relatives, but also understand how it can affect you negatively, and that way you can prepare for that.

14:39 Last week we put out there was a data breach that we became aware of an identity protection company AURA has can They confirmed a data breach affecting nearly nine hundred thousand people names, email addresses, IP addresses, and customer service data. Now you're going to see it mentions IP addresses here. When I get into the FBI public service announcements, one of them is going to be talking specifically about IP addresses. So it says that no social security numbers, passwords, or financial data were exposed. But this other information that they have can be used for phishing scams. That's where you get the scammer sends you an email trying to get you to click on links, respond to the email, call a phone number. Social engineering attacks, that's where they're going to try to get you to give up information using your emotions against you. And we just talked about this on the last one targeted fraud attempts, because now they have more information on you. So just be cautious again of the phishing emails or the schmishing text you know, don't click on the links or the attachments. You're going to go directly to the verified website or call the verified phone number to hear those accounts for unusual activity if you feel if they've been compromised, you know, update your passwords immediately and consider maybe using a pass key

16:10 if they have that available as well. You can also if you were a victim of fraud, you can put a fraud alert on your credit through the credit reporting agencies if you were I believe you can also put a fraud alert if you were part of a data breach. If I'm not mistaken that one you're gonna if you just go in to each one of the three credit reporting agencies and search fraud alert, it's going to come up and tell you how to put one on and the reasons how the reasons as to why you can have one. What else do we have here? Uh? Fake Google security check. So I actually talked to somebody in person about this recently, where they were getting a phone call and someone claiming to be from Google and wanted to you know, check the security and make sure their account was secure and all of that.

17:12 But it's not just. It's not just phone calls, right, They can send you an email as well. So they're creating. Convincing fake Google security pages to trick you into installing malware on your device. It may look like you're protecting your account. You're going to have login verification codes, personal data and contact your location, you know. But so the scary part here is that the scammers haven't hacked into your Google security you know, your Google page. It's they've tricked you into granting access to it. So just again, don't trust the pop ups. Always go directly to the official you know, you know how to log into your Google security page.

18:02 Just go directly. There and check things out and make sure you know, you keep your logins and all that stuff. Safe and confidential. Digital Spring cleaning this was the Tip Tuesday or actually I'm I'm talking about this now, but this has not come out on your email as a Tip Tuesday. It probably and it's not going to be today's either. It might be next weeks on April seventh, I think, is when this one's going to come out, But you're going to get it early if you're listening to this. So we always do. Spring cleaning right in our homes, well we also need to think about spring cleaning with our digital life. You want to back up important files, your photos, your documents, your financial records. You can use both iCloud and external storage.

18:51 And the external storage is you're actually going to have to buy a backup storage device from a store or Amazon someplace online, and you're going to have to actually plug it into your device and then back it up. When it asked where you'll have to go in and instead of the iCloud, you'll pick one of the drives, so you know, it could be it's usually a letter drive like maybe E F G H something like that, but it'll it should automatically come up and tell you which drive it's in and say that it's an external device.

19:32 But I'm just looking on my phone, so the iCloud one. So if you and these instructions are going to be on the email that comes out. But I have an iPhone, So if I click on settings and then I click on my name and then I'm trying to oh, and then one of the options is iCloud, So I click on that, it's going to come up and and say, like mine says upgrade, I need to upgrade for more storage. But it gives you saved to the iCloud. It tells you everything you've saved to the I Cloud. But then you could go into iCloud backup, and then you could save back up to this phone, back up over cellular and then back up now, and you click back up now, and it's going to go through and it's going to back things up. Android is very similar. If you're in those instructions will be on the email that comes out.

20:34 But if you don't want to wait until next week for the email to come out, you could always just google how to back up on an my Android device to the cloud. So you're going to want to take one backup unplugged, so that's going to be that external backup and you're going to want to store it safely, So just store it someplace where someone can't just you know, they're usually very small, take it, put it in there, you know, put it in. A bag, and you don't know that it's gone. So you want to keep it in a lock. Secured place and just make sure you update your devices regularly. Excuse me, you know this is something you know, we talk a lot about in her presentations. One of the things you can do, or one of the tips we give out, is to have a trusted tech support person.

21:23 You might not have a need for that person because all your devices might be running fine, you don't need to talk to them about any issues you're having, but at some point you're going to need their help, and you don't want to panic and just pick the first person that comes up on a Google search who could be a scammer, you know, posing as a legitimate tech support company that you already know. You're not going to panic, you know who you're going to call. But a lot of the tech support people also and it's usually subscription based, but they will have a plan that you can subscribe to where they will go in on a regular basis and check for updates on your device and automatically make sure that those are running. And then they'll if there's a new product, you know, that comes out that they think might work, Like if they're working with your antivirus and a new product comes out that they think will work better for you, then they'll say, hey, you know this new product's out. It's an increase in a subscription price, but I think it's worth the money because it's going to help you with this, this, and this. So they're really good to have. So that's the digital sprint cleaning house stealing. This happens unfortunately a lot, not just in Arizona.

22:41 All over the United States. People's titles deeds to their houses actually get stolen, especially if there is no lean on the property. There's no in Arizona. There's nothing for the recorder to stop the recorder from transferring it because there's no lean. You know, if they pull the property up and there's a lien on it, it doesn't matter who's standing in front of them. It could even be you standing in front of them trying to change the title or it could you know, then they are going to say, we can't transfer this. This lean has to be satisfied. So they need a lian release to have it removed. And so that is a really good preventative tool. But scammers can you know another thing they can do, and that's what this one is was talking about. Some federal agents had uncovered a seventeen million dollar mortgage fraud scheme targeting vulnerable homeowners, especially the older adults. They stole the victim's identities, access the property records, and took out loans against the homes without the homeowner ever knowing. So the personal information has stolen. Fraudstrets impersonate the homeowner, fake documents are created, and loans are taken out using the home as collateral. Now this is where they're This is identity theft and they're not even stealing the title. They're just it's mortgage fraud schemes. But once it's discovered, you're the one left having to fix this problem because the

24:11 home is still in your name. They've impersonated you, so you have to report it as identity theft, get your paperwork, and then you're gonna have to go Maybe it's just one mortgage, maybe it's multiple mortgages. You know, whoever, you're gonna have to go to them and go through that process of getting them, explaining to them that this was a fraudulent mortgage and all of this. And while you might say, well, I won't be. Out any money with a fake mortgage fraud scheme, but and maybe maybe that is the case, but maybe not. But you definitely your time is valuable and do you want to have to and I'm gonna say, waste your time, but it's not really you know, at that point, it's not wasting it because you need to get your identity back.

25:00 But just protecting your identity can help with this. And another thing in Arizona, well, as I'm saying this, I'm thinking about it. We have a free title alert system. All the counties in Arizona do, and if the change in your title happens, you get notified right away. But I'm wondering if that also will happen if a mortgage lean is filed on your title, because technically that changes your title because now you've got to it doesn't change the name on the title, but it changes it because you have a lean on your property. Now, if that would also trigger getting a notification from the county Recorder's office, that's a question to ask. And you know, with me, having to pivot at the last minute with today's show.

26:06 I haven't looked that up, so that's going to be something that I'm going to look up and find out. But so you know, protect yourself. You want to monitor your property records and title activity. A lot of credit monitoring companies will do this for you. Be careful what you share online and there are title monitoring, title monitoring, and identity protection services. A lot of insurance companies now offer identity protection policies. One last thing, and this is with fingerprints. And we became aware of this from someone that was in one of our presentations that it was getting harder and harder for her to use her fingerprint as as a biometric way to get into her accounts or turn on her device. And it's not that her fingerprints change, it's just they become harder to read because your skill and changes. It becomes thinner, dryer.

27:03 So here's some things you can do. As you can add multiple fingerprints, you can re scan your fingerprint on a regular basis, so as your skin naturally becomes thinner and drier, it's going to recognize the most recent scan that you did. You can also set up facial recognition to do that instead of the fingerprint or the pin number if they allow the pin number. So now we're going to go to some internet some public service announcements. So this is one protecting your devices from becoming a tool for criminals. This one came out on March twelfth.

27:44 Now this is where it talks about IP addresses, So it's a residential proxy. So that's an intermediary server between the individual and the websites that you visit to make the connections appear or originate. So legitimate IP addresses assigned by they're signed by an. Internet service provider, so. They can go into TV streaming devices, digital picture frames, smartphones, tablets, routers, they're all used. For traffic. But once the internet connected device is compromised, the device's IP address can be used by criminals to mask their online illegal activity, making it appear that the individual, the consumer, the person in the household is responsible because it's their IP address, and now a device was compromised that was using that IP address, So now the criminal could possibly then start using that IP address to funnel their illegal activities.

29:00 So just to give you an understanding as to how the residential proxies They're used to route users request through another Internet device, typically located elsewhere. So when selecting an IP address, users can choose which country they would like the IP address from down to the city and state. So if anybody uses a virtual private network, then you're familiar with this because you can go in and you can tell it and it's going to come up and I use one, and so it'll come up with Phoenix. But it'll also I could say I'm in Miami, i could say I'm just in Florida. I could say I'm in a totally another country. You know, there's a lot of different places you can pick from. And so if I say I'm in Miami, Florida, well then anybody that looks at what I'm doing while I'm using that virtual private network, it looks like I'm actually in Miami, Florida.

29:59 So that's how that IP address works, where they say you can select it down to the city and state, so it alters the perspective of where that website traffic was routed through. So some of the things you can do. These are some methods you can use to acquire residential IP address. The virtual Private network is a big one with hidden terms of service, so free virtual private network services may enroll users' devices with a residential proxy network without obtaining their consent. The details are often hidden in the terms of service, which most users do not read prior to download. And this is where we talked about recently having a dedicated IP address, and that is something when you're looking at virtual private networks, you can look in what they offer and see if it makes sure it offers.

30:59 A dedicated dedicated. A dedicated IP address, sorry, because then that'll be your IP address and you're not sharing it with a whole bunch of other people. The compromised devices that we just talked about, especially if you're sharing an IP address with a bunch of other people, it's not dedicated to you, it's easier for those your device, your IP address to be compromised and then getting into your devices or vice versa. Your devices could be compromised and then get into your IP address.

31:40 So malware, you. Know you have free online video game content, free sports, TV shows, movies, free software that normally costs money, can all contain malware that makes the device part of a residential proxy network. So just be careful of a lot of free things go in and read the privacy settings and make sure that it doesn't say residential proxy network. And you can. You can find all of these public service announcements if you just go to i CEA as in CAT the number three at dot gov. That's the Internet Crime Complaints Center dot gov. It's through the FBI, and if you go under Public Information, which is a tab at the top, you'll see public service announcements and you can find these and read through. But these are criminals. How they use those residential proxies malware distribution, phishing and identity theft. They spam and fake account creation. They can they can get data from you, brute force attacks which have lockout mechanisms in it. Let's see identity and location. They can they make illegal purchases. They bypass purchase restrict restrictions. They can take over accounts. This is specifically, you know a bad one.

33:11 It's a bank account. So some differ. So tips to protect yourself avoid TV streaming devices that claim to provide free sports, TV shows and movies. Exercise caution before downloading free VPN applications. Don't click on the pop up ads. Don't download pirated software such as video games and movies. Because those often can contain malware. Only use official trusted application stores, so it could be your Google Play Store or your Apple Play Store or your app store. I mean, keep all your operating systems, software, all that stuff up to date, and you can actually turn on your updates to go manually.

34:06 Let's see. Suspicious emails, don't click on suspicious links, and then victim recording and stuff. So let's go to a different one. This one is data security risk of using foreign developed mobile apps in the United States. So users should be aware of what user data these apps request access to au pond download and we talk about this in our presentations as well. When you download an app, a. Lot of times it's going to ask you to give permission to certain things on your device. They some platforms offer the option to invite friends or contacts to use the apps, or give the app access to your yeah, to your contacts or maybe your friends on social media.

35:02 If those are. Default permissions or if you've granted those permissions, well then the developer companies can store all that data and address books, the names, email addresses, physical addresses, whatever you have in your stored contacts, and this is you know. They can then also make they can spoof a contacts name and phone number when they're calling you. The app's privacy policies list where the collected data, personal information, all that is stored. They might store it on servers located in China for as long as the developers deem necessary. Some apps allow users to choose to run the app locally by downloading a version directly to the user's devices, which allows users to run queries without accepting the cloud based version, which could then or then it prevents the data transfer to China or third third party country. Some apps also contain malware which is going to get more information and could actually give the bad actors access to whatever device. So please, I think the moral of the story here is just always download from those verified stores, your Google Play Store, your App store, And when you're getting ready to download, it's going to come up and it's going to say it should tell you these are the default permissions or

36:32 the mandatory permissions, but it's going to say want you to give access maybe to your location, your contacts, different things, And you have to ask yourself, why does this app need to know my location wherever I'm at? Then don't give them that access? Same thing with your contacts, same thing with the social media. You know, you don't have to give access to all that. If you're not sure what you've given, what permissions you've given your apps. If you go into your settings, and I'm going to do this, well, if you go into your settings and then scroll all the way down to the bottom, you'll see apps. And again I'm on an iPhone, there'll be default apps which you can go in and look at. But then it's going to list all the different apps that you have on here. And I have, let's say, American Airlines, so I can click on American Airlines and it is going to it says I never allow it to use my location.

37:26 I do not give it content to any of my access to any of my contacts. I have my camera. Shut off, and it only has access to add any airline tickets to my calendar that I purchase. It will use my cellular data, and it can do in the background, it can do an app refresh. So just click on those individual apps and see what you've given permissions to and you can always turn those permissions off. Last one, so this isn't one that came out at the beginning of the month. But criminals impersonating city and county officials in phishing emails for planning and zoning permits. So here's how it works. Individuals and businesses with active application for land use pers are being targeted by criminals impersonating the city in county planning and zoning board officials. They're fraudulently requesting fees associated with these permits. So victims receive unsolicited emails citing their permit informations, zoning application numbers, and or property addresses. Victims are instructed to pay invoices for fees related to their permits and directed to make payments via wire transfer, the cryptocurrency or the peer to peer payment apps which are the Venmo, the zell, the PayPal. So this could be an individual because the individual could be maybe bought a piece of property to build a house on.

38:57 So that's an example for an individual. So the end emails are going to contain detailed, accurate information about planning and zoning requests. They include property addresses, case numbers, true names of the city and county officials. The emails use professional language formatting all that stuff. And remember we've also talked about in our presentations. You know, there's a generative text AI software out there that criminals have access to. They can access the free version of it. They can also pay for versions of it. But now, just. Because you get something that's from the city's zoning planning and zoning office and the grammars correct, it's got professional language, doesn't necessarily mean it's legit because scammers can plug this information into their generative text AI software that they're using and it's going to print, it's going to give them professional language, grammar is good, all of that stuff. So you still need to verify by going to directly to the planning and zoning and finding out if that information is accurate. Email addresses are going to contain usernames similar to the city or counting planning and zoning departments, but they originate from non governmental domains such as USA dot com.

40:21 Just know that government domains are going to be dot gov. Email delivery maybe time to coincide with ongoing communications with city officials, and they could have attached PDF invoices and those could contain malware on there as well. You open the attachment, but then there might be a link in there. The attachment itself could contain malware. But it also might have a link in that attachment to make the payment, and you click on that link, and now that could install Mawre on your device. It's always emphasized the urgency, threatening delays or other obstacles if you don't pay for this immediately. Don't just assume that these are legitimate just because they have the seal, the names of officials, they're on what looks like the city or county letterhead. All of that, you always want to verify the email addresses, So write down every single character that's in that email address, and especially look at what's to the right of the ad sign the domain name, and make sure that that matches exactly with the Planning in Zoning's website. And then make sure that the what's to the left of the ad sign, which is going to be for the individual persons email address, that that matches exactly with previous ones that you know are verified email addresses from that person.

41:47 You could always call to the verified phone number to the Planning and Zoning office and say, I have this email address for this person. Is this the accurate email address? You could go to the verified website and check things out as well. So that is all I have for today and actually anyways, hopefully you guys got some good information out of that. Next week we are going to have David. Back and we are going to be using a specific AI platform where we're going to be searching. We're going to put in some prompts to have it pull information on, for instance, what is the best anti virus software for seniors for twenty twenty six, what is the best virtual private network for seniors for twenty twenty six, And we're going to show you how you can do those searches through an AI software program, and how you can get the verified links is to where the software is pulling this information, so you can make sure it's actually pulling the correct information and not it's not pulling information from a scammer's website. Don't forget to go to Rosadvocacy dot org.

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43:52 So you have the power to make scam protection your healthy. Have it and until then, feel free to reach out to Joyce and let's talk about scams.