March 24, 2026

Is My Grandchild Really In Trouble

Is My Grandchild Really In Trouble
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Season 2

David Hawkins is back to talk about Artificial Intelligence, Deep Fakes, and Voice Cloning. Is it really your grandchild calling? Is this video real or fake?

Join us to learn more about Artificial Intelligence, Deep Fakes, and Voice Cloning.

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get contacted and really do your research to verify what's

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going on. Today, we're going to talk about some artificial

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intelligence and we have David Hawkins back with deep roots

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in both physical and cybersecurity. David's skills cover everything from

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identity management and access control to compliance and risk solutions.

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He has conducted hundreds of workshops and thousands of pocs

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in vendor cyber risk management. So let's welcome David.

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Hello, nice to see her again, David, good.

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To see you.

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All right. So artificial intelligence, Yeah, I think or AI

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right as everybody knows it. So what specifically do you

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want to talk about.

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Well, you know, the last time we talked, we talked

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a little bit about the deep fakes, and obviously deep

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fakes are a pretty big part of you know, being

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aware of not being scammed and things like that. And

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in order to illustrate some of what I've learned recently

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in AI, and I've spent the last three years digging

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pretty deep into ai'll go back to that previous conversation

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and show you how number one, it'll reinforce what we

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talked about then, but also talk about how I use

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that to generate the content that the link that I

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provided you has. Okay, So it's a little bit of

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a behind the scenes of what we did before. Okay,

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So I'll go ahead and share screen here. And what

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I did was initially when we first got together I

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shared a document with you, and that document essentially was

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I took some bullet points and I asked an AI

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to help me generate this document. Now, the way that

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worked is I started off with let's go to I

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started off with this tool called grock. Now grock is

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just one of the many AI types out there. There's

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Open Ai Rock, Gemini, any.

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Of them isn't co Pilot one of them.

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And Copilot yes, Microsoft Copilot. So they're all excellent tools.

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But I started off with this simple interface and I said,

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help me build a document related to As a matter

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of fact, I think I have the old prompt somewhere

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over here on deep fake videos, so there's right there.

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So I created a conversation and I said I'm looking

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for a way to demonstrate deep fake videos, and it

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actually came back and gave me and I'll just copy

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and paste this. You can see how quickly these things

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put it together for you. And the trick with AI,

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and the real skill with AI right now is in

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coming up with the best prompt. In many respects, it's

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asking the system, the AI, to make a prompt for you,

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and that just saves you the whole and it does

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take a few seconds. So what you're seeing in the

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background right now is there are a number of agents

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inside of this tool that are going out and creating

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a bunch of content in order to or doing research

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and then creating the content on the fly.

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The content showing up there.

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Yeah, it's going through and you can see it, says

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Agent three, I know this is let me let me

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zoom that in a little bit so folks could see it,

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and that this gives you an idea of what is

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happening behind the scenes. So there are a whole bunch

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of agents that are running just for the purpose of

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going after and creating and right, rightfully, it's a good

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thing to point out right off the bat. It's there

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are a lot of protections being built into AI right

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now from a deep fake perspective to prevent people from

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making deep fakes.

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So which is good?

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Is aware of that?

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Yes?

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Now before so explain when you say there's a lot

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of agents working in the background, Explain what an agent is.

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Right, So, initially, when you just create a prompt, a

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prompt is just an instruction. Now an agent is able

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to take the instruction and break it down into sub tasks,

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and then each agent will go grab onto one of those.

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Tasks and run with and the agent is actually the AI.

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Software.

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It's a task manager, a task manager.

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And you may have heard recently a great deal of

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information about Claude one cloud. I'm sorry. Open Claw okay.

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So open Claw is a tool that somebody created here.

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It was a weekend project, just a weekend literally, a

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weekend project. And this guy put together a tool that

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was supposed to be a personal assistant. Okay, we go

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out and do all of these different things for you.

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And as he continued to build it, he started adding

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things like connections to Telegram, which is a communications chat software,

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Discord another one like that, and each one of those

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communication tools would allow the agent to talk to you.

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And it even reached a level of sophistication where the

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agent would call you on the phone.

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Oh wow, so the agent is really like a computer.

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It is.

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It's not because I think when we might, you know,

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me being old school, we think of agents as being

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a real, live person that you're talking to.

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That's exactly right, that's exactly right. So and that's how

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you want to think of an agent, because each time

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you work with an agent, you end up with some

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the equivalent of a person that is running with a

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task and acting on a number of items. So the

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output of what we ended up with here this is

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actually a remash because I went back and created something else.

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But our original conversation had this document, and this whole

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document was composed by the tool. Now that's great just

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having a document. This is a script perhaps for a

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video that you might make. And that's kind of what

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we did on the last call.

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Right right, you know, this is when we talked to

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people in the presentations. I did one yesterday and on Sunday,

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I talk very briefly about AI because I tell them

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right up front, I am not an AI expert. I

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have not done a lot of research, you know, on it.

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But the generative text, right, I talked to him about,

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how do you remember when scams kind of were in

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the early stages and before we even had email, they

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were sending letters in the mail, but then they would

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do them via email and you could look at it

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and go, the grammar is so bad. You just knew

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it was a fake. You knew it was a scam.

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But I and I some people know about chat GPT,

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others don't. And I'm like, it's free. Scammers can use

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it just like we can. But within seconds, it creates

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a grammatically correct script that they then copy and paste

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over into an email or a letter or whatever they're

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going to you know, do, And so you can't look

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at it and say, well, you know, this is sounds legitimate.

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It must be right exactly, and it's And so now

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I want to go just on the like learning about

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how to use AI a little bit. Okay, and this

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one so this is still this is still on the

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creating the script for that discussion, and I'm going to

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go back to the top so that you can see

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the full conversation. So I said, help me with the

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talking points, right and I and I took the original

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document that it generated, that word document, and I just

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dragged it and dropped it in. Okay, so that's this

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attachment right here. Okay, this document that I just talked about, right, Yeah,

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I iterated on it. So I took that document it

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was downloaded as a file on my computer, and I

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just dragged it and dropped it into this conversation so

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that way I had more context, and I said, what

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I really want, I want to go you know, it

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came back and said, Okay, that was a great conversation.

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And I'm sorry for scrolling here quick, because I know

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that can be annoying. But here's the second part of

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my conversation. I said, get me links for all of

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the research that you did with those agents, and show

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me the links. I don't just want the output of

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the content.

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I want to where it came from.

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Yeah, I want this citeation so I know it's real.

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Okay.

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And so it came back with all of these links. Wow.

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A step by step process that I did in order

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to make this a very useful thing is I use

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another tool. And this is not AI. This is actually

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just a quick, easy tool to get bookmarks for things,

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all right. So this is every one of the links

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that we looked at over here. I went in and

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I said, open this in another tab, open this in

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another tab, each one of these links. I did that

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for every one of these individual links.

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Okay.

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That gave me the websites and the items, And just

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to make it easy, I saved them with this little

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widget and it saved it as you can see right

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here in the Rose interview for today. Okay, okay, and

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that that's what all of these individual items are. And

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so the good news is for the folks who click

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on the link for the notebook that I shared, every

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one of these links is inside that notebook.

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Oh okay, okay.

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So all of these videos are there, so you can

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actually go in and say, how do I learn about

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these deep pics? Can you give me some examples, you know,

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rather than rehashing that. We don't need to go try

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and create a demo of this because so many have

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already built some great, great content.

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Around this, right right.

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So that's when I go to the next big tool.

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So the first big tool was just using any old

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chat tool, and make sure to remember to ask specifically

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for things that are useful, like I need the links,

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don't just tell me give me the links. So you've

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got some proof behind it that gives you the starting point.

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And I did the same thing again. I took that

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content and I copied and pasted all of it with

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the links back into this document for the second draft. Okay,

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I've got a nice record of that. And then I

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went to another really powerful tool. And this is a

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free tool that you should know about if you haven't

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had the opportunity to work with it. This is a

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tool called notebook LM. Now you can download it as

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a program. That's what you're looking at on the screen

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right now. But it's also available as a link, so

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you can just go open notebook LM. I don't think

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I thought I had it right there, but I don't,

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so we'll go notebook LM. So you can see the

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link here at the top says notebook LMT, Google dot com.

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And if you just search for notebook l it'll bring

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it right here. And then here's the deep fake topic.

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I've got all these different notebooks for different shows that

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I've been researching and doing. And then here's the here's

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the content, and you see all over here on the left,

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this is where all the videos that I just showed

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you were. When I pasted, I dragged and dropped the

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document in okay, and that that by doing that what

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it is I had add sources and then I just

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dragged and dropped. Yeah.

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Yeah, it just went straight upload either one.

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Yeah exactly. And in fact, what I did too was

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in order to get the websites so clean out here.

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If I just left them in as a word document,

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it might not have picked it up so easily. So

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using this web page tool, I downloaded as a text

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file all of my weblinks, and that gave me this

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page right here, which I'm going to bring over here

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you go. So when I downloaded it, it just gave

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me all these web pages, simple as that. It was

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just all of the content and when you download it now,

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I don't need to memorize these. But what I did

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or used these anyway, I just copied this whole thing,

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hit copy, and then once I did that, I was

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over here in the notebook LM tool and I hit

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ad sources and I went to websites and I pasted

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all of them met.

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And it picked them all up as websites.

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Yeah, and that's so that they came in nice and

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clean the first time I tried it. When I did it,

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I ended up with the word document which is attached

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way down here somewhere in the bottom there. It is

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so that talking points didn't extract all of the web pages,

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and I wanted them nice and clean so you could

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go to one of these and actually look at it.

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So the idea now is that text source, the text

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file that I copied and pasted all the web pages

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created individual web pages that you can now look at

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and watch the videos on. Okay, but then the beautiful,

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like really powerful capabilities of this tool, this notebook LM

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tool is I thought, well, I'd like to know more

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about the topic. Now I'm going to just spread this

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out a little bit so you can see better. Over

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here are a set of buttons. And for those who

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have done work in the corporate world and you've had

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to go create content rapidly, maybe for a meeting or

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something like that, if we had had these tools, our

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lives would have been so much easier, right. It just

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it was crazy.

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So there'd be so many more trees around.

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Yeah, yeah, and and trees in another sense too, because

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here's a tree that it created for me from the content.

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Oh wow.

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So I just clicked on it, I said create, And

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just to give you the context, I clicked this creative

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mind map and it created this digital mimic navigating AI

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voice and deep fake fraud. So all of those sources

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were used to create this little tree. And again us

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this understanding real quick. I had scam mechanics. The voice

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cloning is one of them. It takes only a three

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to ten second clip to create a scam video, which

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is why you want to bury and make private any

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videos of you and your family on Facebook or yeah. Yeah,

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and then you've got the ability to go they can

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download your social media media videos, so you want to

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make sure that that's not available. And then the tools

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you know, this actually talked about the tools that you

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could use to go create the deep bakes and I

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did do the research. I was going to go ahead

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and try and create a sample. And what ends up

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happening is it creates. It creates it for one hundred

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and fifty dollars a month. So if you don't mind

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spending that kind of money, you know, do it. They

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can get one scam, they win. But for those of

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us just trying to share and help.

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The share right, education awareness all that.

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Yeah, But like I said, all of these videos actually

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have some great content around that, so we don't need that.

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But when I clicked on that one tab, it explained

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everything in that content for you.

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And again the tab that you clicked on was on the.

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Tools eleven Labs. So if I go zoom in, I

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was in.

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The voice AI, So this is the voice cloning yep.

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And I just clicked on eleven Labs and it brought

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this over here. It just when I clicked it, it

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composed and created this chunk of content. And this chunk

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of content now you can read and it has citations

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which will bring you back to the source material, so

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you know exactly what it's talking about and you can

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get deeper understanding.

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So basically explains how you can do a voice AI

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recording exactly right. Oh, and how to detect it. Right,

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That's that's the good part. Where where's the challenge of detection? There?

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It is?

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Yeah, yeah, So this is all in the notebook that

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I shared publicly, and each one of these items that

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if somebody were to come into this notebook, you can

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come in at any time click on the link. It's

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these are all safe links. We don't have to I've

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made sure that they were all into them at videos

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before I uploaded them. But for anything, if you were

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to start off by going to the mind map, when

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you first come in, you'll be presented with something similar

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to this, with the links on the left, the chat

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in the middle, and then on the right you'll see

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the studio and the items that are created from the

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studio are down below here on the right. And this

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is this is what you really want to think of

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this as not just hey, this is great, I can

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go look and learn about deep fakes. This is a

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tool that anybody can use. And you can use this

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to teach yourself any topic you want to learn in depth.

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And that's really the value of this as far as understanding.

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And this create notebook at the top is the key.

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So if I just create a brand new notebook, it's blank,

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it has nothing.

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In it, and and you start building from here.

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And the way I like to do it is the

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way we started out. So I go over here to

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any chat, I don't care if it's rock, a chat, GPT.

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You're the one that you probably have on your computer copilot,

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and you just ask. The first question you ask is

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tell me about a topic. And then once I know,

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tell me about the topic. Then I want to go

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back and I say, now get me the links and

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the citations, give me proof of everything you just gave

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me in that topic research. And then the third step

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is to extract out of that all of the links

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that they gave you so that you can now put

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that in as research over here in notebook. LM okay,

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very good one, Step two and step three.

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I did notice when you clicked on that link about

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the voice cloning and it gave you all of the

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information about it. I don't know it was it called

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eleven Labs or something like that.

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Yes, that's one of the AI tools that.

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Right, and it was saying they came up with, uh,

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what was it. They came up with a tool that

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you could put a recording into and they would be

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able to tell if it was a real recording or

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if it was a made up recording through some sort

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of software. But then it also said that it had limitations.

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Let's see what we can find out. So I'm asking

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in the chat at the bottom, tell me about the

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detection technologies for d fakes that you have found in

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this reach, in this research just to be no, well,

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I'm saying in this research so it doesn't go out

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to the interview that Yeah. So now it's going to

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go ahead and give us it looks through all of

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this and says here's how you can find the defense

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tools that you need, and we'll see what it comes

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back with. And this is what this is is a

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single agent that we have put the research into, and

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now you interview the agent. You interview the agent for

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all of the content that we've put in here. Wow,

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so this is here we go. So now some of

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the tools that it's going to point out are going

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to be enterprise grade tools, which none of us are

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going to be able to afford as individuals.

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Right, they're made for big companies exactly.

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But a like here's an eleven Labs iPhone detector. I

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think you must have spotted this. I didn't actually see

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it when we were first talking. So so now this

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would be able to identify. And that means let's say

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the next the next technique, give me links for all

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of these tools. Uh, for the consumer level tools I

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can use. There we go. So now it's just it's

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telling us about it. That's great. I don't how is

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it useful? I make it useful by asking again and again.

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It's just like being a reporter. You're digging in and

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you say why why why? Why?

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How?

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What?

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Right? It's like it's like taking an in person interview

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that a reporter does with somebody, and it's just putting

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it all online, having a software doing the investigative journalism

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exactly exactly.

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And so it's come up for us to save us time.

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You'll have to be able to spot the links in here,

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which should be easy enough. But it's it's black and white,

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so that's easier than if it was color. And I

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know folks with certain color blindness that links can be invisible,

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so as long as you recognize the links, but you

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can just there are other ways to see the traditional

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link that you might be looking for, just by going

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to the citation. So and then like.

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At eleven Labs Clone detector, Yeah.

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Let's see if I don't know if it does a

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good job of telling us how let's try. Let's just

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go to that and we'll copy it out and we'll

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go over here, paste and see what would come up

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there we go, and.

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Of course first you have to make sure you're human.

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We'll see if that that is a good detection. Please

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click the circles as they appear.

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Okay, yeah, oh, it's the first time I've seen that.

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Yeah, it's a different one. All right. So there's the

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and I'm not sure what that we're Oh, it wants

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me to oh privacy sex file. I think I'm going

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to skip that one because well, no, I'll do it.

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Why not? So downloads it and then you know, we'll

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find out on the fly. This is essentially, this is

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launching a tool that's now going to be on my

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tool bar so that I can use it in the future.

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This is real time, so you know, I did not

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know I was going to be getting this. So now

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that we've got it, I'm going to go up here

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to my toolbar. We're going to let it have access

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to my location. And now I've got this privacy browse.

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Tool, So hang on, hang on one second.

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Sure for people that like, yeah, you don't want to

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automatically just start downloading software onto your computer, but you

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have your device secured and locked down, so it would

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have already have scanned that to make a determination if

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it was bad, and it would have pulled you don't

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download this.

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Yes, I have. I have a combination of malware bytes,

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and then in addition to that, I've got an antivirus

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software down here below that's a corporate grade and anti

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virus and malware detector. And this one I believe is

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called let's see here, I'll just bring it up. So

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this one is a bit deefender. So I've got plus

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I've got Microsoft Security in and of itself. You're using

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a Mac. There are other tools similar to that, and

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i'd encourage you to be always using good tools.

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So I just wanted to make people aware that you

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weren't just downloading you are for the.

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Sake of the show. But at the same were you

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knew it.

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Was okay to download it because of the security measures

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you have on your on your computer. But now you

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got to the point where it said you were going

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to share your location.

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Yes, and I did that because for the purpose of context,

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I can always go I know, I can go in

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and turn.

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The turn that off.

474
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.960
So I'm okay with that. So but now the tool

475
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:30.200
that it gave me was I believe it. Let's see

476
00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:32.440
if it's hidden in the background. Here there it is.

477
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:35.880
So this tool popped up, and let's I'm going to

478
00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:37.799
move that to another screen for a second so I

479
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:43.559
don't lose it and come back to our the actual

480
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:49.200
deep fake pages. Here, there we go, and there we go.

481
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:52.920
Now the tool here you would get a link for something.

482
00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:57.680
And this is a good idea for multiple tools. This

483
00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:00.279
one here happens to be for eleven eleven lass and

484
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:04.480
the ideas if you see a video. So let's talk

485
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:07.720
about two things when it comes to these videos. First

486
00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:11.200
thing is people who are hitting you with a deep

487
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:16.319
fake are trying to do a one on one persuasion technique.

488
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:19.559
They're either going to incite your fears or they're going

489
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:24.039
to incite your greed perhaps, and they're going to use

490
00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:26.319
that to try and get you to click on something like, oh,

491
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:27.920
I just want a million dollars and we all know

492
00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:29.759
that one. So we're not going to get caught up

493
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:33.200
in that. But the video that somebody sends or the

494
00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:35.839
audio that you hear on the phone, you know you

495
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:38.720
probably they're going to put it in a context where

496
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.720
it comes in on your phone, and they're going to

497
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:46.559
try and inspire fear instantly by like the very topic

498
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:50.920
that we talked about our opening scene in this was

499
00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:55.279
right here. Imagine your phone rings and it's your granddaughters.

500
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:59.960
Yeah yeah, So that's an instant fear, and they want

501
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:05.480
to provoke your reactionary thing, not your critical thing. Absolutely

502
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.480
you have to be able to recognize that. Now a

503
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:14.359
deep fake video is going to go more for not reactionary,

504
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:19.160
but a little bit about your team membership, if you will.

505
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:24.319
And you so a lot of things you think about

506
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:27.400
what we're going into. This is a political year. There's

507
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:32.240
going to be influential candidate influential videos put out right.

508
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:36.599
So you should be suspicious of every video you see

509
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:40.480
that comes out on any social media or that's sent

510
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:44.279
to you in an email. And before you ever if

511
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:46.720
you watch a video, it's okay to watch as many

512
00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:49.960
videos as you want, but don't believe anything in any

513
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:52.839
of the videos until you come to a site like

514
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.079
this and test it and see if the video is

515
00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:59.599
a real video. So I think in one of the

516
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:04.079
if we go back to here, there was a deep

517
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:06.640
fake video that was created here.

518
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:09.279
Is it?

519
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:09.640
It is?

520
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:10.839
Okay?

521
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:14.680
Yeah, So so if we went to that video, the

522
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:16.799
video is going to be telling us about it as

523
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:22.359
opposed to showing you the actual video. So that's not

524
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:25.279
going to give us exactly the technique that we're looking

525
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:28.720
for here. But if you were on x, YouTube, any

526
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:30.880
of the social medias that you might be a member of,

527
00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:35.039
and you see a video, copy that link and come

528
00:30:35.079 --> 00:30:39.480
over to the privacy tool paste it in before you

529
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:45.039
go believing, especially when it comes to things like Trump

530
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.279
said this, Gavin Newsom said that some other person said

531
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:53.160
anything like that. Don't believe it because that's going to

532
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:56.599
be where they're invoking your team spirit for whatever team

533
00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.759
you're on. It doesn't matter and if you're abstaining from teams, wonderful.

534
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:04.400
That should make you even more skeptical of both sides.

535
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.759
And then take those clips and paste it into a

536
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:11.039
tool like this and find out if it's been modified.

537
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:15.640
Right, And if somebody was looking for those tools, right,

538
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:17.920
I mean, they can just do a quick Internet search

539
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:23.079
and now find you know, we can use our research here,

540
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:27.599
right yep. Because it looks like McAfee has one, does

541
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:31.559
semple ai has one, that there's a whole bunch of them, right.

542
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:33.960
And so I would I would take a look at these.

543
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:38.880
I'm very careful. I will tell you this. McAfee for me,

544
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:44.039
I used to work for Semantech, and so both Semantech

545
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:49.519
and McAfee for me I have a less than trusting perspective.

546
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:54.359
Not because they're bad tools or bad companies, okay, but

547
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:58.839
what they are are companies. They want to sell. They

548
00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:01.799
want to sell you something, and so they're going to

549
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:05.319
if you put their deep fake detector, like a McAfee

550
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:10.640
deep fake protector. The cost of anti virus and the

551
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:13.319
tools that are around that have gone down so much

552
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:17.319
that they're doing anything they can and they're scrambling for

553
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:22.079
ways to get you to buy into a subscription. So

554
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:25.880
that's why I like the idea of this eleven Labs

555
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:28.799
one where you notice when we pulled this up, I

556
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:31.359
didn't get pounded with ads instantly to say, oh and

557
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:33.720
by the way, for seventy nine dollars a year, you

558
00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:36.720
can actually have X, y Z tool and all of

559
00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:38.680
these other capabilities.

560
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:40.440
Right, because sometimes when you get on the website the

561
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:44.960
pop ups come up about subscribing, and even even.

562
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:47.839
Malware Bites does this. I mean, I love malware Bites

563
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:50.119
as a tool. I've been using it for a long time.

564
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.960
But every single one of these tools, their only mechanism

565
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:57.079
to communicate with you is through your installation of one

566
00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:00.240
of their tools. And then they just say keep sending

567
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:03.720
me money. You know, find different ways to what else

568
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:07.160
can you do? And I will say this, those tools

569
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:10.720
are good. You should have a version of those tools

570
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:15.599
for without question. But do you want the subscription that

571
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:19.200
they shove down your throat? Not necessarily. You want to

572
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:19.920
be selective.

573
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:23.519
You have to do your own research and make sure

574
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:25.680
that what you're getting fits your situation.

575
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:30.160
Yeah, and let's do dive into one thing here. So

576
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.920
I'm going to look at malware bytes for an example

577
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:36.359
and bring it up here. So there are about three

578
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:41.279
or four things in this product that are worth talking about. First,

579
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:43.920
you have a scanner. You should have a scanner, period.

580
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:46.640
I don't care what brand it is, malware Bytes, any

581
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:50.119
of the others. You should have scanner. Second thing you

582
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:53.599
should have is some kind of real time protection that

583
00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:56.519
protects you when it pops up on your computer saying hey,

584
00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:59.400
I just blocked this, so you need that now. It

585
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:02.759
could be mal where bytes, it could be built into

586
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:08.039
your operating system, like Microsoft has its own Windows security.

587
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:11.719
That's perfectly fine as well, but you have to make

588
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:15.320
sure you run the scans to keep it updated and

589
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.079
make sure that you don't just bypass these pop ups.

590
00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:24.239
And then then we get into the next step. VPNs.

591
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:28.639
You definitely want to consider a VPN if you're trying

592
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.480
to do things away from home. So if you go

593
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:36.559
to another country, VPNs are essential because what ends up

594
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:41.360
happening is you can end up getting into their You know,

595
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:45.840
every country has bands and agreements on what kind of

596
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.400
data is allowed in their country. So if you're just

597
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:54.440
using you could be doing a search in a country

598
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:57.639
where literally you could have somebody knocking on the door

599
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:03.039
for something you search or posted on a social media network.

600
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:06.559
So if you go to the UK and you're staying

601
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:11.159
at a hotel and you make a negative comment about

602
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:14.480
one of the political parties, you could find yourself being

603
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:16.000
interviewed for.

604
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:20.880
That right, right, you have to know and.

605
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:24.639
By interviewed, I mean it could mean incarceration. It's not privy.

606
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:26.800
Yeah, you have to know the rules and the laws

607
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:30.960
and stuff like that. So and that could take tons

608
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:33.599
of research, and you know, it's interesting. We just we

609
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:37.280
talk about VPNs in our presentations and explain to people,

610
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:42.960
you know, just because you're at a place, right, whether

611
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:47.280
it's a coffee shop, a hotel, you know, whatever it is.

612
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:50.440
And you say, is your Wi Fi secure? A lot

613
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:53.000
of times the answer you're going to get is yes,

614
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:57.239
it's password protected. But you always have to ask yourself

615
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:02.400
the question how many people know that password on any

616
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:07.559
given day? It's very true and a lot is the answer,

617
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:10.960
because they might not change it every day. And even

618
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:12.800
if they don't, how many people are staying in that

619
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:15.159
hotel that know that password? Right? I mean there's just

620
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:18.159
and so we talk to them about their their mobile

621
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:21.920
hotspots on their phone. Right, Yes that's password protected, but

622
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:25.880
somebody would actually literally have to have your phone or

623
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:29.679
they would have to be inside your phone right through

624
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.800
not having protection on your phone and clicking on a

625
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:36.000
bad link or something like that to see that password,

626
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:38.719
which is why we always I tell people at the

627
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:41.800
beginning of the presentation, you're going to hear me say

628
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:46.719
multiple times you need to secure your mobile phones because

629
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:51.440
they're mobile computers. And I get that back on the survey.

630
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:54.239
You know, what's one thing that you learned, And it's like,

631
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:57.239
I need to get antivirus on my cell phone, you know.

632
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.400
And it's because you have to ask yourself, if someone

633
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:05.679
got in there, what damage could they do? Yeah, well, let.

634
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:07.519
Me give you a real world example of what kind

635
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:10.559
of damage they could do. So and by the way,

636
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:13.360
this is another good thing that these services all offer,

637
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:18.159
which is identity protection. And what this will do is

638
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:20.679
go out and search for all references to you in

639
00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:24.800
the public and in the dark web domains and find

640
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.440
where your data is exposed. And that's a great tool

641
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:32.079
to have. The trick to this one though the reason

642
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:34.880
I don't subscribe to it on malware bites is because

643
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:40.119
it's actually every single time you do one of these researches,

644
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:42.440
you find out that some of your data has been breached,

645
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:46.719
it's almost guaranteed. And if you get a message saying

646
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:50.639
your data was breached, they usually preferably like a letter

647
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:55.280
that came to your mailbox. You can actually subscribe and

648
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:59.760
get for free their service. And I always say, if

649
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:03.400
you've got one of those services, take advantage of it,

650
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:06.239
because why would you want to pay a subscription for

651
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:09.400
thirty or forty dollars a year when you get it

652
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:12.000
for free and it'll last for one to two years.

653
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:16.039
Just make sure you're careful about knowing how many of

654
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:18.280
these things you put your credit card into, because you're

655
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:21.639
going to end up with multiple mit says auto renew,

656
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:23.679
Make sure you turn off auto renew.

657
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:26.480
On everything right, because you're going to forget all of

658
00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:27.920
a sudden, you're going to get the charge.

659
00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:30.840
Exactly so. But the real world example I was going

660
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:34.599
to give you, I had a repair that needed to

661
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:39.280
be done for a property that I own, and I

662
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:44.119
made the mistake of texting a person my son actually

663
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:48.400
my credit card number, and that credit card number now

664
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:52.000
ended up being used in something that shouldn't have been used,

665
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:55.519
and it wasn't maliciously used, but because it went through

666
00:38:55.599 --> 00:39:00.360
the texting the open text of the standard text pro call.

667
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:05.320
Which is not encrypted because encrypted going iPhone to iPhone.

668
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:07.159
No, it was iPhone to iPhone.

669
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:09.360
Oh really, because that's supposed to be encrypted.

670
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:13.400
It is, but unfortunately it did get somehow it got

671
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:18.119
caught up. So in that instance, what ended up happening

672
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:22.400
is something on his phone that he had downloaded that

673
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:26.960
was probably not the best thing to download. Oh okay,

674
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:29.480
there was some kind of malware on his phone that

675
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:33.559
picked it out of the app and we never saw it.

676
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:35.760
We never saw it on his phone as a subscription,

677
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:39.760
we never saw it tied into anything. But somehow that

678
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:43.519
credit card number got put into an app that he

679
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:45.760
didn't even have installed on his phone. He had it

680
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:48.000
for a brief period of time, but then uninstalled it.

681
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:51.400
And then I was getting ten dollars charges three four

682
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:55.320
times a day. Oh, I had an American Express and

683
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:58.679
they helped me with the fraud and we blocked it.

684
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:03.199
It was all covered. Nonetheless, that was a problem and

685
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:09.039
big rule when it comes to protecting yourself, remember the

686
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:13.320
whose interest is being protected. When you have a debit card,

687
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:17.239
it's on you. You've got your account. The debit card

688
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:20.840
is direct access to your check, yes, and it's on

689
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:24.639
you to protect that. So if you pass that information around,

690
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:30.159
you're you're just you could be out money instantly, right, yeah,

691
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:32.199
you know. And then but on the other hand, if

692
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:36.119
it's a credit card, it's credit and so it's on

693
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:40.679
the credit card company to protect that because they're giving

694
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:42.079
you a loan.

695
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:46.079
Right, that's why they're doing a credit check on you

696
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:48.519
when you sign up for a credit card, and they

697
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:50.360
want to make sure that you're a good bet to

698
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:50.760
pay it.

699
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.400
They have millions of dollars per.

700
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:57.199
You know, you're for fraudule charges protect.

701
00:40:56.920 --> 00:41:00.119
Themselves, so you don't have to worry about protecting if

702
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:02.239
you're using a credit card. So if you're going to

703
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:05.119
do anything on a phone, anything on a subscription of

704
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:07.880
any kind, always use a credit card. Never use your

705
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:08.440
debit card.

706
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:09.000
Yeah.

707
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:12.039
No, that Even My father got caught up on that one.

708
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:14.400
He subscribed to something and they were just taking money

709
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:17.079
out of his account and he couldn't stop it until

710
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:21.119
I helped him. And it just it's so easy to

711
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:24.000
get caught up in these things. So it is he

712
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:25.840
didn't even have a credit card. I made him get

713
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:29.559
a credit card. And we removed his debit card from everything.

714
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:34.480
Right, yeah, all right, well we've got about eight minutes left.

715
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:43.800
Sure is there a way that I'm trying to think

716
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:45.519
of what's the next step because I know we're going

717
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:48.280
to do part two next week, and so I don't

718
00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:52.000
want to get into, you know what, what we're going

719
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.480
to talk about next week, you know, but.

720
00:41:58.039 --> 00:41:59.960
I think I think as far as that goes, well

721
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:05.079
we can do is just uh, we're going to basically

722
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:07.480
go a little bit deeper, probably talk a little bit

723
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:11.880
more about agents and things like that, but maybe do

724
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:17.320
more of a high level discussion on understanding all of

725
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:19.320
those big chat tools.

726
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:21.039
Okay, so you know.

727
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:24.960
There's all of the different there what is called frontier models.

728
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:28.079
We'll get into what is the difference between a frontier

729
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:32.159
model and agent, the different tools that you can use

730
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:35.679
as far as how to create images, how to create videos,

731
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:41.039
and some real real world use cases workflows we started

732
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:44.159
one this week, but a real world workflow.

733
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:47.800
Around so we'll then be able to like see an

734
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:52.360
actual like deep fake video that I don't.

735
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:55.280
Think that would be the best because then we would

736
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:57.440
one way unless we have a budget for that.

737
00:42:58.079 --> 00:42:59.679
Oh, I see what you're saying, because we'd have.

738
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:05.079
If we're really just going down the path a little

739
00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:09.000
bit of just talking about AI in general too. I

740
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:13.360
think in the future we if we haven't already said it,

741
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:17.639
AI is absolutely going to be the number one thing

742
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:22.679
that's going on. You're not going to be able to avoid.

743
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:27.599
So rather than avoid it, let's let's talk about how

744
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:30.719
you can leverage it in your life, real time, in

745
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:34.039
the real world and get benefit from it.

746
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.760
Right. And then actually also, you know, when we are

747
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:43.199
looking at videos, are there certain things that we can

748
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:47.039
look for or to write, you know, little things that

749
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:50.679
we can look for to say, hey, this doesn't seem

750
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:54.239
to be making sense, you know, forget forgetting what they're saying,

751
00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:58.079
but just looking at the video itself to see if

752
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:01.800
there's a little nuances to try to give, you know,

753
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:05.599
especially the older adult population, right, they might not be

754
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:10.679
so technical to I have that at.

755
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:13.400
The end of this document we created for the last one,

756
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:18.559
and what we'll do here is just it's worth going

757
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:22.159
through these real quick on today's topic because we were

758
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:26.440
just talking about this a little bit. So in the videos,

759
00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:33.119
look for unnatural blinking lip sync issues where the words

760
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:38.039
don't quite match the video okay. And as a matter

761
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:41.679
of fact, if we talked at the beginning about you

762
00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:46.199
mentioned my channel, which is the Second Sip Second Sip. Yeah,

763
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:48.400
it's just a bit of a news show. I did

764
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:51.960
thirty five episodes back to back every day for about

765
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.199
a month and a couple of days, and then I

766
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:58.679
paused that because basically, I don't want to do it

767
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:01.360
just a news show every single day, so I'm doing

768
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:03.880
more in depth videos that are going to be once

769
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:07.800
a week. But this at the beginning of every single

770
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:09.840
one of those or most of those videos, I have

771
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:13.559
a little montage video that I created, okay, out of AI.

772
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:16.440
I just used AI and you'll see right off the bat,

773
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:20.039
not my voice, my face looks fake sometimes even though

774
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:24.039
it's got a good representation of me, okay, and the

775
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:27.360
audio doesn't always match up. So those are really good.

776
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:30.960
If you go to that Second Sip channel on YouTube,

777
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:34.000
you can find these videos and when you look at them,

778
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:36.400
you can you can ride off the bat see the

779
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:39.320
messed up video or the waxy image of the face,

780
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:42.639
and you know, some of them is very obvious.

781
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:43.199
Okay.

782
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:45.440
So someone just gets on YouTube and they and they

783
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:48.760
search the Second Sip or is it just second sip,

784
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:49.840
either one, but.

785
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:52.079
Either one to bring it up, but the second sip

786
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:55.719
will bring up. And there's quite a few episodes in

787
00:45:55.760 --> 00:46:01.039
there where I was coming off of enjoying Scott Adams

788
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:04.400
show until he passed away in January. Oh, and so

789
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:07.360
that's where the start of the Second Sip came from.

790
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:12.840
Because he had a thing, let's have a sip what

791
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:16.039
he called the simultaneous Sip that he introduced every single

792
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:18.400
show with, and for me, I just called it the

793
00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:21.519
second Sip because it was kind of a dedication to him.

794
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:26.280
And he has some amazing techniques on how to detect

795
00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:30.039
deep fakes and how to detect scams and frauds that

796
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:34.519
has been reporting for years. So that's kind of where

797
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:35.840
I love Scott Adams.

798
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.440
Okay, all right, so people want to look at that,

799
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:41.679
they want to look at second Sip. Yeah. In fact,

800
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:44.239
I'm gonna I have, you know, for the newsletter in April.

801
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:48.400
I'd like to it'd be nice to put one of

802
00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:51.400
those videos in there and just say do you see

803
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:53.400
do you notice any differences?

804
00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:56.800
Yes? Yeah, And it'll be pretty simple to you can

805
00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:59.679
instantly see the difference because there's a ten or fifteen

806
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:03.360
second clip at the beginning and it's not me, and

807
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:05.920
then you jump into the actual video and it is me.

808
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:09.960
It's clear that you can tell this was a fake video.

809
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:12.760
This is a real you. Oh okay, all right, now,

810
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:15.360
it's not going to be that easy on something that

811
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:17.960
is a really well designed, deep fake.

812
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:19.559
Yeah, but you will.

813
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:23.360
See that in different videos throughout the thirty five videos

814
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:26.480
that I did. Some of them are really cartoonish and silly.

815
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:31.239
Some of them really look like me talking towards the

816
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:34.039
last three or four episodes before I stopped.

817
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:35.840
So they're a lot harder to detect.

818
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:38.519
Yeah. Yeah, because I was getting better at making the

819
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:39.920
prompts to create the video.

820
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:40.679
Oh there you go.

821
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:43.679
Yeah, and that, by the way, we'll talk about that

822
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.079
next week. How to save a bunch of prompts that

823
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:49.880
we use in the in your tools you're your toolkit

824
00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:51.159
to get the most out of it.

825
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:55.679
Okay, all right, very good. So we've got just under

826
00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:59.000
two minutes. Any closing remarks, Uh.

827
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.360
Yeah, let me just finish these. So look for the

828
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:05.960
flat tone, the behavioral sudden urgency. You know, do this

829
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:07.599
is going to be a thing if you don't do

830
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:08.360
something right now.

831
00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:10.039
Yeah, urgency is always bad.

832
00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:15.000
And then don't tell somebody this is a big secret.

833
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:18.360
Who wants is an educase, you know, for accuracy. They

834
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:20.719
are one of the things that I would say is

835
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:24.119
looks and sounds real, but you want to you always

836
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:27.679
want to have that skeptical mind of One of the

837
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:29.719
things that I do when I especially when I'm trolling

838
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:33.360
through my emails, the junk mail, they say these. They

839
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:37.519
give you these urgent things like we just process your

840
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:39.519
payment for six hundred dollars.

841
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:41.519
To make you want to open that email, right.

842
00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:44.239
And I say, oh, great, thanks for doing that for me.

843
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:47.639
That's my I literally have a programmed thing in my

844
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:49.920
head that says, oh, thanks for taking care of my

845
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:52.559
payment because my AMEX would have shown it to me

846
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:53.280
if I did it.

847
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:57.239
Yeah, And that's something so you don't go into panic

848
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:00.239
mode exactly. It just is like, oh, okay, thanks you,

849
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:02.000
and then you're going to be more app to go okay,

850
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:04.119
that doesn't make sense, blah blah blah.

851
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:07.320
Right, and then the final one is you know, look

852
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:10.840
for that don't get call plan and that's this last

853
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:12.840
There's a bunch of these that are in the references

854
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:15.159
that we have, but this is probably one of the

855
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:18.079
biggest ones that I'd like to point out. If you

856
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:22.239
are being told that there's a proof of life situation

857
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:26.320
going on and somebody is trying to get your somebody,

858
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:29.360
they're they're doing an imitation of somebody, right, hang up,

859
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:33.000
Just hang up, and then use the number you have

860
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:35.679
on your phone to call that person back.

861
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:38.760
Really, the number in your contacts, in your the number,

862
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:41.320
the call history number that came through, the number that

863
00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:43.199
you know is that person. Yeah.

864
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:46.480
Absolutely, if they go what are you talking about, You're like, Okay,

865
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:47.880
that was a scam exactly.

866
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:51.400
Yeah, that's verification. All right.

867
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:53.679
So that's it. Really, I think I just wanted to

868
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:55.880
make sure and these all of these are in that

869
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:57.360
research document I shared that.

870
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:00.880
All right, I'm going to take a dive into that

871
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:04.440
before next week. So all right, thanks David, and I'm

872
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:08.519
looking forward to next week to continue this conversation. But

873
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:11.119
we are out of time and I need to do

874
00:50:11.159 --> 00:50:14.000
a quick ten second close on here. So we got it,

875
00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:17.440
all right, Well, thank you everybody for joining us today.

876
00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:21.360
Lots of great information. Don't forget to tune in next week.

877
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:25.440
We're going to continue the conversation on artificial intelligence and

878
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:29.159
with some different tool different tools you can have in

879
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:32.800
your toolbox, and don't forget to go to Rosadvocacy dot org.

880
00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:35.320
All our social media links are there down at the

881
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:39.480
bottom of the homepage. You can sign up for the newsletters. Also,

882
00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:43.159
David's YouTube channel is the second SIP. You can get

883
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:45.800
on and look at some of the videos that he's

884
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:48.320
done there as well. All right, we'll see you next week.

885
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:53.480
Well that's all the knowledge for this episode. Junian every

886
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:57.519
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887
00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:02.199
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888
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:06.519
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889
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:10.000
And until then, feel free to reach out to Joyce

890
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:12.079
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